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This is what blogging was like, no? Pingbacks created a conversation among posts.

fiatjaf 10y ago
Blogging is about the same as posting in your own "feed" on any social network. See, for example, the indiewebcamp[1] people, who are against "silos", as they call Facebook et al., but are recreating their same functionalities with personal blogs and a new version of Pingbacks called "webmentions". [1]: https://indieweb.org/ https://indieweb.org/
- stinkytaco 10y ago
  But the pingback was more about making your blog post a comment on someone's post. So it was creating a conversation. I could read a post, respond to it on my blog and ping back to the original. That way my feed was a mix of the discussions I'm having with others as well as my own stuff. I suppose if you take away the "feed" element, you could call web forums and Usenet "social networking".
  - fiatjaf 10y ago
    > But the pingback was more about making your blog post a comment on someone's post. That's what "webmentions" do. > That way my feed was a mix of the discussions I'm having with others as well as my own stuff. Here's something I like: everything you say is part of a public discussion, so you're talking alone, also comments have about the same weight as standalone posts, also outsiders can join the discussion, it isn't restrict to your current circle of friends.
    - stinkytaco 10y ago
      What you are describing has existed for years and we called it Usenet. Or a forum. Or a mailing list. I can accept that "social networking" is a bad term, but in popular usage it encompasses the "personal feed" almost by definition.
      - fiatjaf 10y ago
        > I can accept that "social networking" is a bad term, but in popular usage it encompasses the "personal feed" almost by definition. Yes, but just because no one has tried to create a different social network. That's why I made my initial comment in the first place. > What you are describing has existed for years and we called it Usenet. Or a forum. Or a mailing list. I don't know about Usenet, but forums and mailing lists are generally oriented to narrow topics, it is not something in which you'll see your school friends or people with multiple areas to discuss varied subjects.
- rinze 10y ago
  It doesn't have to be. I have my blog using Pelican, no comments, no pingbacks, nothing. I write about stuff that interests me because I feel to. If someone finds one of my articles and they find it interesting, good for them. If they don't, good for them too.

Blogging is about the same as posting in your own "feed" on any social network. See, for example, the indiewebcamp[1] people, who are against "silos", as they call Facebook et al., but are recreating their same functionalities with personal blogs and a new version of Pingbacks called "webmentions". [1]: https://indieweb.org/ https://indieweb.org/

stinkytaco 10y ago
But the pingback was more about making your blog post a comment on someone's post. So it was creating a conversation. I could read a post, respond to it on my blog and ping back to the original. That way my feed was a mix of the discussions I'm having with others as well as my own stuff. I suppose if you take away the "feed" element, you could call web forums and Usenet "social networking".
- fiatjaf 10y ago
  > But the pingback was more about making your blog post a comment on someone's post. That's what "webmentions" do. > That way my feed was a mix of the discussions I'm having with others as well as my own stuff. Here's something I like: everything you say is part of a public discussion, so you're talking alone, also comments have about the same weight as standalone posts, also outsiders can join the discussion, it isn't restrict to your current circle of friends.
  - stinkytaco 10y ago
    What you are describing has existed for years and we called it Usenet. Or a forum. Or a mailing list. I can accept that "social networking" is a bad term, but in popular usage it encompasses the "personal feed" almost by definition.
    - fiatjaf 10y ago
      > I can accept that "social networking" is a bad term, but in popular usage it encompasses the "personal feed" almost by definition. Yes, but just because no one has tried to create a different social network. That's why I made my initial comment in the first place. > What you are describing has existed for years and we called it Usenet. Or a forum. Or a mailing list. I don't know about Usenet, but forums and mailing lists are generally oriented to narrow topics, it is not something in which you'll see your school friends or people with multiple areas to discuss varied subjects.
rinze 10y ago
It doesn't have to be. I have my blog using Pelican, no comments, no pingbacks, nothing. I write about stuff that interests me because I feel to. If someone finds one of my articles and they find it interesting, good for them. If they don't, good for them too.