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I don't drive drunk, it's not worth the risk; BUT millions of people drive drunk every day and 99.999% get home safely so in their minds it seems safe enough.

I don't drive drunk, it's not worth the risk; BUT millions of people drive drunk every day and 99.999% get home safely so in their minds it seems safe enough. It's not as if the instant your BAC goes over .08 you are driving like bumper cars.

Mo3 10y ago
I live in Bavaria. Everyone drives over the limit if home is not too far away. Noone ever gets caught. I on the other hand have lost my license for smoking weed 2 days earlier. Sigh..
- magic_beans 10y ago
  Is it common to smoke in public places?
  - Mo3 10y ago
    No. You go to jail. Drinking in public places is however legal and appreciated.
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toomanybeersies 10y ago
I disagree with that number. You're saying that 1 in 100,000 people don't get home safely while drink driving. That's 10 times lower than the yearly death rate from simply driving. And 1/3 road deaths are caused by drink driving.
- MrFantastic 10y ago
  My number is wrong, I just made it up. I think that actually number is more like 99.95% for a person with a .08. My point is that if you didn't care about moral hazard, the odds are overwhelming that you will make it home safe even if you drive drunk. I'm not condoning, just explaining drunk driving logic. That 1/3 road deaths is artificially inflated because if you had 1 drink and well under the legal limit it still counts as alcohol related fatality.
  - mullen 10y ago
    > I think that actually number is more like 99.95% for a person with a .08. But it isn't the .08 drunk drivers killing people, it is the .16+ BAC drunk drivers killing people.
    - lsc 10y ago
      I find the fact that people believe this to be really quite frightening. Sure, you feel great after a few drinks, that is kinda the point. But you are still impaired. Driving is not an activity where confidence helps. Reaction time matters and that goes down from your first drink.
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  - lsc 10y ago
    I don't see how that is artificial. It is well known that your abilities are impacted long before you reach the legal limit.
  - greenshackle2 10y ago
    > That 1/3 road deaths is artificially inflated because if you had 1 drink and well under the legal limit it still counts as alcohol related fatality. As it should. 1 drink is enough to impair your ability to drive. EDIT: I'm probably wrong, someone else in the comments posted data showing risk only increases after .03 BAC.

Mo3 10y ago

I live in Bavaria. Everyone drives over the limit if home is not too far away. Noone ever gets caught. I on the other hand have lost my license for smoking weed 2 days earlier. Sigh..

magic_beans 10y ago
Is it common to smoke in public places?
- Mo3 10y ago
  No. You go to jail. Drinking in public places is however legal and appreciated.

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toomanybeersies 10y ago

I disagree with that number. You're saying that 1 in 100,000 people don't get home safely while drink driving. That's 10 times lower than the yearly death rate from simply driving. And 1/3 road deaths are caused by drink driving.

MrFantastic 10y ago
My number is wrong, I just made it up. I think that actually number is more like 99.95% for a person with a .08. My point is that if you didn't care about moral hazard, the odds are overwhelming that you will make it home safe even if you drive drunk. I'm not condoning, just explaining drunk driving logic. That 1/3 road deaths is artificially inflated because if you had 1 drink and well under the legal limit it still counts as alcohol related fatality.
- mullen 10y ago
  > I think that actually number is more like 99.95% for a person with a .08. But it isn't the .08 drunk drivers killing people, it is the .16+ BAC drunk drivers killing people.
  - lsc 10y ago
    I find the fact that people believe this to be really quite frightening. Sure, you feel great after a few drinks, that is kinda the point. But you are still impaired. Driving is not an activity where confidence helps. Reaction time matters and that goes down from your first drink.
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- lsc 10y ago
  I don't see how that is artificial. It is well known that your abilities are impacted long before you reach the legal limit.
- greenshackle2 10y ago
  > That 1/3 road deaths is artificially inflated because if you had 1 drink and well under the legal limit it still counts as alcohol related fatality. As it should. 1 drink is enough to impair your ability to drive. EDIT: I'm probably wrong, someone else in the comments posted data showing risk only increases after .03 BAC.