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What I don't get: Why would he pursue some court order he's not a party to? The only logical counterparty to this dispute is BoA. They gave away your money with

by wjnc 10y ago

What I don't get: Why would he pursue some court order he's not a party to? The only logical counterparty to this dispute is BoA. They gave away your money without proper title. That shouldn't hold up in court? That they gave some money to the LA Sheriff’s Department, that would be BoA to recoup.

AimHere 10y ago
Trouble is, this guy is a random citizen who doesn't know much about how the law works, and so it hasn't clicked who the correct plaintiff would be for his case. He'd probably get told who the right parties to lodge a complaint against, if there was any lawyer willing to talk to him for about 15 minutes, but the last half of the article is basically him being bounced all over California by legal professionals who won't speak to him, because he's out of their bailiwick. It's the XY problem in legal form...
- HelloNurse 10y ago
  It's the technical mindset: the court order from Southern California is wrong, let's fix it!
  - lr4444lr 10y ago
    Ha, you're right. It's like he was trying to "debug" this problem. PSA dear readers: civil damages are about proximate cause, not root cause.
  - mjevans 10y ago
    Shouldn't this be the case though? Isn't that how the population /wants/ the problem to be fixed? Look at various TV BS court dramas where people behave in a way the population expects them to (versus what actually happens... and no, Phoenix Wright isn't an example since it's interactive).
BinaryIdiot 10y ago
> Why would he pursue some court order he's not a party to? The only logical counterparty to this dispute is BoA. As someone very ignorant in how to handle legal issues, as the story went on I originally thought he had to go through the court system to get his fees returned. It didn't occur to me, until the very end, that it's something he needs to dispute with BoA. Obviously the author needs to take BoA to small claims court but it took me a little while to realize that so I can understand.
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Pigo 10y ago
If I got told I had to travel 6 hours to retrieve my money due to someone else's mistake, it would probably take law enforcement to calm the scene I would cause. I'm wondering how much this poor guy was bounced around because he was too much of a gentleman to express his frustration.

by wjnc 10y ago

AimHere 10y ago

Trouble is, this guy is a random citizen who doesn't know much about how the law works, and so it hasn't clicked who the correct plaintiff would be for his case. He'd probably get told who the right parties to lodge a complaint against, if there was any lawyer willing to talk to him for about 15 minutes, but the last half of the article is basically him being bounced all over California by legal professionals who won't speak to him, because he's out of their bailiwick. It's the XY problem in legal form...

HelloNurse 10y ago
It's the technical mindset: the court order from Southern California is wrong, let's fix it!
- lr4444lr 10y ago
  Ha, you're right. It's like he was trying to "debug" this problem. PSA dear readers: civil damages are about proximate cause, not root cause.
- mjevans 10y ago
  Shouldn't this be the case though? Isn't that how the population /wants/ the problem to be fixed? Look at various TV BS court dramas where people behave in a way the population expects them to (versus what actually happens... and no, Phoenix Wright isn't an example since it's interactive).

BinaryIdiot 10y ago

> Why would he pursue some court order he's not a party to? The only logical counterparty to this dispute is BoA. As someone very ignorant in how to handle legal issues, as the story went on I originally thought he had to go through the court system to get his fees returned. It didn't occur to me, until the very end, that it's something he needs to dispute with BoA. Obviously the author needs to take BoA to small claims court but it took me a little while to realize that so I can understand.

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Pigo 10y ago

If I got told I had to travel 6 hours to retrieve my money due to someone else's mistake, it would probably take law enforcement to calm the scene I would cause. I'm wondering how much this poor guy was bounced around because he was too much of a gentleman to express his frustration.