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Millions of Smart Meters May Over-Inflate Readings by Up to 600%

23 points by rossrubacon 9y ago

rossrubacon 9y ago
I live in Ontario Canada and since the smart meter our electricity is up and we have gone crazy trying to lower it. i can not help but wounder if it uses the same faulty measurement methodology. found this too https://stopsmartmeters.com.au/2017/03/31/university-study-exposes-smart-meters-inflating-power-consumption-readings/ https://stopsmartmeters.com.au/2017/03/31/university-study-e...
- astrodust 9y ago
  You can take pictures of your physical meter's indicators and see if that matches up with your billed usage. You could also test how accurate the meter is by measuring current on the main feed and doing some math.
  - rossrubacon 9y ago
    you have a link on this that will help a n00b like me figure this out
    - astrodust 9y ago
      http://www.hydroone.com/MyHome/MyAccount/MyMeter/Pages/ReadMyOwnMeter.aspx http://www.hydroone.com/MyHome/MyAccount/MyMeter/Pages/ReadM... Like that?
rossrubacon 9y ago
wow the more I read into this the worst it sounds it can't possibly be this much corruption and gouging going on can it. http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters/complaints/ http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters/complaints/
Rafert 9y ago
Not only ESMIG disputed the findings, also the Radiocommunications Agency Netherlands released a statement calling the lab conditions not comparable to normale home conditions: https://agentschaptelecom.nl/actueel/nieuws/2017/slimme-elektriciteitsmeters-zijn-betrouwbaar https://agentschaptelecom.nl/actueel/nieuws/2017/slimme-elek...
kingosticks 9y ago
Previously discussed at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13793771 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13793771
bhhaskin 9y ago
It's scary how much power we give IOT devices. It would be trivial for a utility company to alter or change readings in their favor.
- brandon272 9y ago
  Wouldn't that be illegal? And can't power companies modify mechanical meters as well, if defrauding their customers is their goal?
cylinder 9y ago
I'm getting more and more frustrated with digital appliances. Moved to a new place and the fancy digital appliances are more inconvenient than my previous older appliances with analog buttons and inputs. They are a negative to the experience. They're ruining cars too.

23 points by rossrubacon 9y ago

I live in Ontario Canada and since the smart meter our electricity is up and we have gone crazy trying to lower it. i can not help but wounder if it uses the same faulty measurement methodology. found this too https://stopsmartmeters.com.au/2017/03/31/university-study-exposes-smart-meters-inflating-power-consumption-readings/ https://stopsmartmeters.com.au/2017/03/31/university-study-e...

astrodust 9y ago
You can take pictures of your physical meter's indicators and see if that matches up with your billed usage. You could also test how accurate the meter is by measuring current on the main feed and doing some math.
- rossrubacon 9y ago
  you have a link on this that will help a n00b like me figure this out
  - astrodust 9y ago
    http://www.hydroone.com/MyHome/MyAccount/MyMeter/Pages/ReadMyOwnMeter.aspx http://www.hydroone.com/MyHome/MyAccount/MyMeter/Pages/ReadM... Like that?

rossrubacon 9y ago

wow the more I read into this the worst it sounds it can't possibly be this much corruption and gouging going on can it. http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters/complaints/ http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters/complaints/

Rafert 9y ago

Not only ESMIG disputed the findings, also the Radiocommunications Agency Netherlands released a statement calling the lab conditions not comparable to normale home conditions: https://agentschaptelecom.nl/actueel/nieuws/2017/slimme-elektriciteitsmeters-zijn-betrouwbaar https://agentschaptelecom.nl/actueel/nieuws/2017/slimme-elek...

kingosticks 9y ago

Previously discussed at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13793771 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13793771

bhhaskin 9y ago

It's scary how much power we give IOT devices. It would be trivial for a utility company to alter or change readings in their favor.

brandon272 9y ago
Wouldn't that be illegal? And can't power companies modify mechanical meters as well, if defrauding their customers is their goal?

cylinder 9y ago

I'm getting more and more frustrated with digital appliances. Moved to a new place and the fancy digital appliances are more inconvenient than my previous older appliances with analog buttons and inputs. They are a negative to the experience. They're ruining cars too.