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Is it that big industrial corporations are bad at creating code? Toyota, samsung, synaptic. I'm really beggining to think that code should be left to smaller a

by demarq 10y ago

Is it that big industrial corporations are bad at creating code? Toyota, samsung, synaptic. I'm really beggining to think that code should be left to smaller and medium sized outfits. i.e samsung should buy or hire a small startup to independently develop and grow their next ecosystem. Large enterprises just seem too clumsy pull pull it off unless they wholly dedicate themselves to developing that one piece of technology.

pg_is_a_butt 10y ago
yeah, and big pharma should pushing opiates... you're all idiots.
itcmcgrath 10y ago
The counter arguments include Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc. I think the big vs small comparison is flawed. I've seen some atrocious code produced by small/medium sized outfits. My fondest memory including auditing code from a 3 person outfit who's code quite literally setup an RPC on the server that executed any string it was sent, verbatim, against a database that handled money.
- demarq 10y ago
  Those counter examples were all software startups. And have very very different cultures to other corporations their size due to their roots.
  - pducks32 10y ago
    Is Samsung at this point really _that_ different in terms of semantics from those examples though. Obviously they are all unique and Samsung's location makes a big impact on their culture but like they hire a similar intelligence echelon of people right? I don't know much about the internals of Samsung so maybe I'm missing something.
ungzd 10y ago
Samsung is primarily home appliances corporation. Maybe their management treats TVs as "devices that display TV broadcasts" and phones as "devices for talking over distance". In this worldview there are no things like "bugs", "vulnerabilities", "software updates". Software inside these devices is at the same concern as prints on cardboard box. These devices, including phones, are sold at home appliance stores where "shop assistants" say you things like "That's Ultra Mega HD Super", "8 Cores and water resistant case" and once appliance is sold it is sold and no more problem of company. If it turns on and display pictures then it works.
Sharlin 10y ago
Hardware manufacturers have always been bad at writing software. Especially in certain Far East cultures where software engineering is traditionally not even considered "real engineering".

by demarq 10y ago

pg_is_a_butt 10y ago

yeah, and big pharma should pushing opiates... you're all idiots.

itcmcgrath 10y ago

The counter arguments include Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc. I think the big vs small comparison is flawed. I've seen some atrocious code produced by small/medium sized outfits. My fondest memory including auditing code from a 3 person outfit who's code quite literally setup an RPC on the server that executed any string it was sent, verbatim, against a database that handled money.

demarq 10y ago
Those counter examples were all software startups. And have very very different cultures to other corporations their size due to their roots.
- pducks32 10y ago
  Is Samsung at this point really _that_ different in terms of semantics from those examples though. Obviously they are all unique and Samsung's location makes a big impact on their culture but like they hire a similar intelligence echelon of people right? I don't know much about the internals of Samsung so maybe I'm missing something.

ungzd 10y ago

Samsung is primarily home appliances corporation. Maybe their management treats TVs as "devices that display TV broadcasts" and phones as "devices for talking over distance". In this worldview there are no things like "bugs", "vulnerabilities", "software updates". Software inside these devices is at the same concern as prints on cardboard box. These devices, including phones, are sold at home appliance stores where "shop assistants" say you things like "That's Ultra Mega HD Super", "8 Cores and water resistant case" and once appliance is sold it is sold and no more problem of company. If it turns on and display pictures then it works.

Sharlin 10y ago

Hardware manufacturers have always been bad at writing software. Especially in certain Far East cultures where software engineering is traditionally not even considered "real engineering".