Any perceived smugness on my part was a response to baiting from the parent such as "It's kinda sad nobody can compete with Apple". Open-source can compete on

Any perceived smugness on my part was a response to baiting from the parent such as "It's kinda sad nobody can compete with Apple". Open-source can compete on many fronts and offers many other advantages (i.e. freedom), but on a pure ease-of-use assessment, I do not agree with you that Gnome or KDE could sway the parent, if Ubuntu completely failed to do so.