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I sincerely hope this passes, however small a chance it has. I want to be able to explore the world but I have strong reservations about international travel a

I sincerely hope this passes, however small a chance it has. I want to be able to explore the world but I have strong reservations about international travel at this point.

Gys 10y ago
Why would the rules of one country stop you ? There are 194 other countries in this world. http://www.worldometers.info/geography/how-many-countries-are-there-in-the-world/ http://www.worldometers.info/geography/how-many-countries-ar...
- pdelbarba 10y ago
  It's not the outbound trip I'm concerned about.
  - chongli 10y ago
    Are you a US citizen? If so, just don't bring any devices when you travel. Pick up a burner in your destination country and toss it before you return. As a US citizen returning, they can't legally bar you from the country and there'll be nothing for them to search.
    - randcraw 10y ago
      So each time I travel to Canada/Mexico, I have to leave my computer and tablet at home and spend an additional $50+ for a disposable phone that must remain free of all my personal data... You're proposing that as an acceptable solution to US law enforcement stealing my keychain and all my private data simply because they're standing a few feet outside US soil, which they claim entitles them to most certainly violate the intent of the US Constitution, which every customs officer has sworn an oath to defend? So NOT.
      - pdelbarba 10y ago
        I agree, it's not that I can't, I'd just rather not have to go through all the James Bond shit required to not be treated like a criminal coming into my own country...
    - ihattendorf 10y ago
      Some people might prefer to bring their devices with them, instead of picking up "burners" or shipping their devices back home at their expense.
llamataboot 10y ago
Ship electronics home, use encryption, etc etc. Many ways to get around this. I'm not saying that the US isn't becoming increasingly draconian, just that it shouldn't stop you from international travel. As a citizen, you can also refuse. You won't be denied entry to the country, it may just be unpleasant for awhile.

I sincerely hope this passes, however small a chance it has. I want to be able to explore the world but I have strong reservations about international travel at this point.

Gys 10y ago

Why would the rules of one country stop you ? There are 194 other countries in this world. http://www.worldometers.info/geography/how-many-countries-are-there-in-the-world/ http://www.worldometers.info/geography/how-many-countries-ar...

pdelbarba 10y ago
It's not the outbound trip I'm concerned about.
- chongli 10y ago
  Are you a US citizen? If so, just don't bring any devices when you travel. Pick up a burner in your destination country and toss it before you return. As a US citizen returning, they can't legally bar you from the country and there'll be nothing for them to search.
  - randcraw 10y ago
    So each time I travel to Canada/Mexico, I have to leave my computer and tablet at home and spend an additional $50+ for a disposable phone that must remain free of all my personal data... You're proposing that as an acceptable solution to US law enforcement stealing my keychain and all my private data simply because they're standing a few feet outside US soil, which they claim entitles them to most certainly violate the intent of the US Constitution, which every customs officer has sworn an oath to defend? So NOT.
    - pdelbarba 10y ago
      I agree, it's not that I can't, I'd just rather not have to go through all the James Bond shit required to not be treated like a criminal coming into my own country...
  - ihattendorf 10y ago
    Some people might prefer to bring their devices with them, instead of picking up "burners" or shipping their devices back home at their expense.

llamataboot 10y ago

Ship electronics home, use encryption, etc etc. Many ways to get around this. I'm not saying that the US isn't becoming increasingly draconian, just that it shouldn't stop you from international travel. As a citizen, you can also refuse. You won't be denied entry to the country, it may just be unpleasant for awhile.