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Most people don't have 5-8k to drop. The main problem with your specs is thinner/lighter is diametrically opposed to longer battery life and more RAM which cons

by runamok 10y ago

Most people don't have 5-8k to drop. The main problem with your specs is thinner/lighter is diametrically opposed to longer battery life and more RAM which consumes more energy. In 2015 the macbook pro had a 99.5 watt-hour battery (100 watts is the limit to take on airplanes). Now it has 76 watt hours. So you could get approximately 30% more battery life had they not prioritized thin and light. Source: https://www.cnet.com/news/macbook-pro-october-2016-battery-life/ https://www.cnet.com/news/macbook-pro-october-2016-battery-l...

valuearb 10y ago
Everyone benefits from thinner and lighter. We only benefit from more battery life if you reach the end of your capacity. For phones, it's an easy product decision, thinner/lighter is always better. You give the most benefit to the most users, and those who really need more battery life can get a battery case and pay the weight/thickness costs alone. For a Macbook, it's a closer decision, but I think in this case they still reached the same battery life as the older laptops made the decision reasonable. Remember that it wasn't that long ago that a 7 hour laptop battery life was extraordinary, 10 hours should be plenty for most users. And there are also battery packs you can get if it isn't'. I heard that Apple wasn't able to get a custom fitted 85 watt-hour battery ready in time for the release, and I expect they will refresh the MBP lineup with it when it's ready, giving an 11-12 hour battery life.
- komali2 10y ago
  I was lucky enough to go through all stages of old-enough-to-have-a-laptop school (highschool and college) during whatever we should call the period of time in which batteries in laptops rapidly evolved. So I started out a freshman where laptops were hunks of solid IBM plastic chunking at like, 4 hours, maybe? And came out of college with surface pros and macs humming at 8 hours. For me, it wasn't until they were pushing 6-8hours (of ACTUAL usage) that laptops made sense as education devices - I'm at school for 6-8 hours , I can squeeze in maybe 30 minutes to an hour of charge time if I want to be stuck in one place for that stretch of time (as opposed to, I dunno, walking around, working out, whatever). So there was an actual finite number of battery time for me that made the things viable.
- thomastjeffery 10y ago
  > Everyone benefits from thinner and lighter. Just because that's what you want, did not mean it's what everyone wants. I, for one, would love a solid inch thick brick of a phone with a replaceable battery, and a 2-inch thick laptop with sturdy replaceable parts.
- 72deluxe 10y ago
  I thought battery life on my MacBook was great particularly after AppNap was introduced and the aggressive shaming of power-hungry apps via the battery menu. Then I build some C++ under Xcode and battery life is not so good... Probably great for web browsing and casual use as used by 98% of users though.
- CamperBob2 10y ago
  Everyone benefits from thinner and lighter. Hmm, where'd the downvote button go?

by runamok 10y ago

valuearb 10y ago

Everyone benefits from thinner and lighter. We only benefit from more battery life if you reach the end of your capacity. For phones, it's an easy product decision, thinner/lighter is always better. You give the most benefit to the most users, and those who really need more battery life can get a battery case and pay the weight/thickness costs alone. For a Macbook, it's a closer decision, but I think in this case they still reached the same battery life as the older laptops made the decision reasonable. Remember that it wasn't that long ago that a 7 hour laptop battery life was extraordinary, 10 hours should be plenty for most users. And there are also battery packs you can get if it isn't'. I heard that Apple wasn't able to get a custom fitted 85 watt-hour battery ready in time for the release, and I expect they will refresh the MBP lineup with it when it's ready, giving an 11-12 hour battery life.

komali2 10y ago
I was lucky enough to go through all stages of old-enough-to-have-a-laptop school (highschool and college) during whatever we should call the period of time in which batteries in laptops rapidly evolved. So I started out a freshman where laptops were hunks of solid IBM plastic chunking at like, 4 hours, maybe? And came out of college with surface pros and macs humming at 8 hours. For me, it wasn't until they were pushing 6-8hours (of ACTUAL usage) that laptops made sense as education devices - I'm at school for 6-8 hours , I can squeeze in maybe 30 minutes to an hour of charge time if I want to be stuck in one place for that stretch of time (as opposed to, I dunno, walking around, working out, whatever). So there was an actual finite number of battery time for me that made the things viable.
thomastjeffery 10y ago
> Everyone benefits from thinner and lighter. Just because that's what you want, did not mean it's what everyone wants. I, for one, would love a solid inch thick brick of a phone with a replaceable battery, and a 2-inch thick laptop with sturdy replaceable parts.
72deluxe 10y ago
I thought battery life on my MacBook was great particularly after AppNap was introduced and the aggressive shaming of power-hungry apps via the battery menu. Then I build some C++ under Xcode and battery life is not so good... Probably great for web browsing and casual use as used by 98% of users though.
CamperBob2 10y ago
Everyone benefits from thinner and lighter. Hmm, where'd the downvote button go?