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LTS release, now I can assure business that we're good on this technology stack for 3 years. Thanks Django team!

sbuttgereit 10y ago
You know, when I look at their statement about this being an LTS, it seems (to my understanding) that they have a slightly different definition of what support means in this context. "This version has been designated as a long-term support (LTS) release, which means that security and data loss fixes will be applied for at least the next three years. It will also receive fixes for crashing bugs, major functionality bugs in newly-introduced features, and regressions from older versions of Django for the next eight months until December 2017" I expect that something like a "crashing bug" would be something that would be supported in an LTS, but here they're specifically excluding such bugs from the full three year duration. If stability were a priority, I'm not sure I would look at this any differently than an 8 month release. To be fair, I don't work in this space, so I may have a skewed perspective, but the 8 month limitation items did catch me off guard.
- collinmanderson 10y ago
  In theory Django doesn't guarantee to fix any non security/data-loss bugs after December, however in the past some other bugs have been fixed too. 1.8 had a similar timeline (December 2015 limitation), but there were some non security / data-loss bugs fixed in 2016: https://github.com/django/django/commits/stable/1.8.x/django?after=ba046f9994422c97751581cdae3ace17af2ffcb0+34 https://github.com/django/django/commits/stable/1.8.x/django...
- jldugger 10y ago
  If you require longer support, you probably want to pay for such a thing. Does RHEL package django?
  - collinmanderson 10y ago
    It's in EPEL. Also, Django 1.11 will likely be in Ubuntu 18.04, supported until 2023.
- brianwawok 10y ago
  How many crash bugs make it past 8 months? Usually you find those out fairly quick.
  - ptman 10y ago
    Do you stop working on your django 1.11 -based app after 8 months? What it you find a novel use for a newly introduced feature two years from now that crashes?
    - brianwawok 10y ago
      I personally upgrade to follow the latest release. But if I were on a LTS... I wouldn't use that unstable feature.

You know, when I look at their statement about this being an LTS, it seems (to my understanding) that they have a slightly different definition of what support means in this context. "This version has been designated as a long-term support (LTS) release, which means that security and data loss fixes will be applied for at least the next three years. It will also receive fixes for crashing bugs, major functionality bugs in newly-introduced features, and regressions from older versions of Django for the next eight months until December 2017" I expect that something like a "crashing bug" would be something that would be supported in an LTS, but here they're specifically excluding such bugs from the full three year duration. If stability were a priority, I'm not sure I would look at this any differently than an 8 month release. To be fair, I don't work in this space, so I may have a skewed perspective, but the 8 month limitation items did catch me off guard.

collinmanderson 10y ago
In theory Django doesn't guarantee to fix any non security/data-loss bugs after December, however in the past some other bugs have been fixed too. 1.8 had a similar timeline (December 2015 limitation), but there were some non security / data-loss bugs fixed in 2016: https://github.com/django/django/commits/stable/1.8.x/django?after=ba046f9994422c97751581cdae3ace17af2ffcb0+34 https://github.com/django/django/commits/stable/1.8.x/django...
jldugger 10y ago
If you require longer support, you probably want to pay for such a thing. Does RHEL package django?
- collinmanderson 10y ago
  It's in EPEL. Also, Django 1.11 will likely be in Ubuntu 18.04, supported until 2023.
brianwawok 10y ago
How many crash bugs make it past 8 months? Usually you find those out fairly quick.
- ptman 10y ago
  Do you stop working on your django 1.11 -based app after 8 months? What it you find a novel use for a newly introduced feature two years from now that crashes?
  - brianwawok 10y ago
    I personally upgrade to follow the latest release. But if I were on a LTS... I wouldn't use that unstable feature.