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> "people travel on roadways because the capacity is available for their trips, when when the capacity goes away, so does much of the trip making." > "46,000 f
by maxsilver 10y ago
> "people travel on roadways because the capacity is available for their trips, when when the capacity goes away, so does much of the trip making."
> "46,000 fewer trips per day across the river after the bridge collapsed."
Can we also start including quality of life and transportation times and housing costs in these measurements. 46,000 people wanted to go somewhere and couldn't. The article plays this like a success, but that sounds like a quality-of-life drop for many people.
Something can still be a bad idea, even if it is not "the end of the world". Tearing down useful infrastructure is still a bad idea, even if it doesn't literally destroy the city.
- Symbiote 10y agoOK, but you also need to consider the quality of life for people living or working near the roads -- that increases when there is less traffic.
- cwilkes 10y agoReally depends on what work that is. If the business depends on people from all over the city it might suffer. While I sort of liked the tone of the article the same could be said about cutting off a limb. Sure you can survive without it.
- scythe 10y agoWhen I lived in Atlanta I had an apartment in south Buckhead within sight of I-85 actually quite close to where it collapsed. I don't recall many sleep disturbances. But when I lived in a complex on 10th street there were sirens going down the road at all hours of the night. The low grumble of car motors is pretty minor by noise standards. Fire engines and ambulances however...
- closeparen 10y agoTry rail level crossings with train horns every few minutes. It's amazing to me that car tires are even considered noise. That's just the floor. There are much worse offenders in urban environments. I guess in a rural or suburban environment you might have actual silence without the highway, but I've never noticed the highway to be much louder than the wind unless a particularly bad diesel engine, illegal-exhaust motorcycle, or emergency vehicle is passing.
- Symbiote 10y agoWhere I live, in the centre of Copenhagen, is so quiet that people from other cities remark on it when they visit. Cars drive at 30km/h (at most), and very few have reason to drive past. There aren't any 'fast' roads nearby, the nearest that could qualify is about 1km away. Most noise is from people talking as they walk past.
- cracell 10y agoAlso have to think about all of the businesses impacted. Previously viable businesses may become non-viable because of those 46,000 people not crossing the river.