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In the future it's going to blow people's minds that software engineers were ever allowed to work on systems that touch people's personal information without a

In the future it's going to blow people's minds that software engineers were ever allowed to work on systems that touch people's personal information without a license.

0xdeadbeefbabe 10y ago
Because they won't appreciate historical context?
booleandilemma 10y ago
Barbers used to perform surgery. I wonder if in the future there's going to be a divergence in the field of software between programmers who do the software equivalent of haircuts <insert PHP joke here> and those who do the "hard work", whatever that will be.
- dom0 10y ago
  We already have people that perform the software equivalent of rocket brain surgery... ANFSCD: Have a free laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I
- michaelmrose 10y ago
  This hasn't been a thing since what over a century. This is not why the requirements exist.
mgrennan 10y ago
Having worked for the state, I learned licensing is about protecting jobs of the license holders now protecting the public. Case in point. You need to go to school for two years to be a beautician. You only need to go to school for six months to be a Cop and carry a gun.
michaelmrose 10y ago
It seems insanely optimistic to suppose that any licensing requirement implemented in scope of the current regime would be anything but will anything other than food stamps for whomever manages develops and implements licensing and manages the training process not least of which bureaucracies in schools. Little of it will even stick to the hands of those who actually do the teaching.
michaelmrose 10y ago
To be clear the idea of education and operational standards is a good idea I just believe your idea would lead to institutionalized and licensed stupid that is very hard to change instead of real sane standards. I don't know if standards imposed from on high can even be formulated in a way that improves rather than ossifies in the long term your concept may even be broken just in context of current affairs but unfix-ably broken in all possible worlds.

In the future it's going to blow people's minds that software engineers were ever allowed to work on systems that touch people's personal information without a license.

0xdeadbeefbabe 10y ago

Because they won't appreciate historical context?

booleandilemma 10y ago

Barbers used to perform surgery. I wonder if in the future there's going to be a divergence in the field of software between programmers who do the software equivalent of haircuts <insert PHP joke here> and those who do the "hard work", whatever that will be.

dom0 10y ago
We already have people that perform the software equivalent of rocket brain surgery... ANFSCD: Have a free laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I
michaelmrose 10y ago
This hasn't been a thing since what over a century. This is not why the requirements exist.

mgrennan 10y ago

Having worked for the state, I learned licensing is about protecting jobs of the license holders now protecting the public. Case in point. You need to go to school for two years to be a beautician. You only need to go to school for six months to be a Cop and carry a gun.

michaelmrose 10y ago

It seems insanely optimistic to suppose that any licensing requirement implemented in scope of the current regime would be anything but will anything other than food stamps for whomever manages develops and implements licensing and manages the training process not least of which bureaucracies in schools. Little of it will even stick to the hands of those who actually do the teaching.

michaelmrose 10y ago

To be clear the idea of education and operational standards is a good idea I just believe your idea would lead to institutionalized and licensed stupid that is very hard to change instead of real sane standards. I don't know if standards imposed from on high can even be formulated in a way that improves rather than ossifies in the long term your concept may even be broken just in context of current affairs but unfix-ably broken in all possible worlds.