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>Brutal to all the MBP hot takes from this fall. Not really, what are people supposed to do? Move their entire ecosystem to Windows? Just because it sells doe

>Brutal to all the MBP hot takes from this fall. Not really, what are people supposed to do? Move their entire ecosystem to Windows? Just because it sells doesn't mean it's a great product. Balmer's reign is testament to that so I'm getting pretty tired of (non-shareholder) people pointing at spreadsheet numbers to justify Tim Cook doing a good job.

IBM 10y ago
Whether it's a "great product" or not in your opinion doesn't really matter as long as the people who bought them are happy.
simonh 10y ago
>Just because it sells doesn't mean it's a great product. How about if the people it makes those record sales to love it? "According to Brand Keys’ 2017 Customer Loyalty Engagement Index, Apple delivers a best in class user experience across every single category in which it competes, from smartphones to music streaming." http://bgr.com/2017/01/20/apple-user-experience-customer-satisfaction/ http://bgr.com/2017/01/20/apple-user-experience-customer-sat...
valuearb 10y ago
If the new MBPs weren't well received, people would hold off purchases, and yes, some would move to Windows. Sales are proof they nailed it.
- gurkendoktor 10y ago
  That's true for people who want 32 GB of RAM, a Nvidia GPU, a touchscreen etc. - I'm sure they haven't bought the MBP 2016. But what about people who are fine with the specs and just don't like the details? You really need to have bought an MBP to know whether you like the Touch Bar and the flat/loud keyboard, or how well the battery works for you (given that the benchmarks are all over the place). I'd love to see the percentage of returned machines instead.
draw_down 10y ago
But the whole point of a lot of the reaction pieces was that it was bad enough to finally shove developers off it and onto... whatever non-Apple laptop. (I don't really know much about PCs these days)

IBM 10y ago

Whether it's a "great product" or not in your opinion doesn't really matter as long as the people who bought them are happy.

simonh 10y ago

>Just because it sells doesn't mean it's a great product. How about if the people it makes those record sales to love it? "According to Brand Keys’ 2017 Customer Loyalty Engagement Index, Apple delivers a best in class user experience across every single category in which it competes, from smartphones to music streaming." http://bgr.com/2017/01/20/apple-user-experience-customer-satisfaction/ http://bgr.com/2017/01/20/apple-user-experience-customer-sat...

valuearb 10y ago

If the new MBPs weren't well received, people would hold off purchases, and yes, some would move to Windows. Sales are proof they nailed it.

gurkendoktor 10y ago
That's true for people who want 32 GB of RAM, a Nvidia GPU, a touchscreen etc. - I'm sure they haven't bought the MBP 2016. But what about people who are fine with the specs and just don't like the details? You really need to have bought an MBP to know whether you like the Touch Bar and the flat/loud keyboard, or how well the battery works for you (given that the benchmarks are all over the place). I'd love to see the percentage of returned machines instead.

draw_down 10y ago

But the whole point of a lot of the reaction pieces was that it was bad enough to finally shove developers off it and onto... whatever non-Apple laptop. (I don't really know much about PCs these days)