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> I equally roll them at people that talk about it happening as if they've done the calculations themselves The two positions are very different though. There
by yodsanklai 10y ago
> I equally roll them at people that talk about it happening as if they've done the calculations themselves
The two positions are very different though. There is an overwhelming consensus among specialists that climate change is happening (https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/ https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/). Why would you roll your eyes at someone that base their understanding of the world on the current scientific knowledge?
- michaelt 10y agoI think ysavir is making a different distinction. Imagine you talk to three people. Person 1 says "I don't believe in global warming, because it was unusually cold in my home town this winter" Person 2 says "I believe in global warming, because it was unusually hot in my home town this summer" Person 3 says "I believe in global warming, because it is the consensus of climate scientists" Assume we agree that person 1 is wrong, and person 3 is right. But is person 2 right because they reach the same conclusion as person 3, or wrong because they use the same reasoning as person 1?
- coldpie 10y agoI guess you could read ysavir's post that way, but I don't see anything in there that implies your reading. All they said was: > I equally roll them at people that talk about [climate change] happening as if they've done the calculations themselves. Which I think is a strawman.
- ysavir 10y agoThat quote says it all: I have no disrespect for people that, as the OP did, acknowledge that they are putting their trust and faith in modern science. The people at whom my eyes roll are those that skip over the trust and preach global warming as a gospel. It's the difference between saying "I don't know what's going on, but I trust those that specialize in this field" and saying "Oh, I know what's going on (even though I never touched science since high school)." As I said in the previous post, it comes down to intellectual humility.
- coldpie 10y agoI don't think those people exist in sufficient quantity or have sufficient political power to validly equate to climate science deniers.