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Please downvote, if you must, but after reading DF for more than a year now, this I feel to be true: Gruber is an Apple sucker-up--apologist--fanboy. And the m

by jlcgull 16y ago

Please downvote, if you must, but after reading DF for more than a year now, this I feel to be true: Gruber is an Apple sucker-up--apologist--fanboy. And the majority of his writing is in that theme. Edit: an attempt at infusing relevance, instead of pure vitriol.

jrockway 16y ago
I kind of like Gruber. He looks good when compared to the really hardcore Apple fanbois. Jobs' "insightful and not negative" characterization captures Gruber perfectly. I think he has had a bit too much Kool-Aid, but he is nowhere near the LD50 yet.
bmalicoat 16y ago
He has his moments but I don't think he is quite the antithesis of Thurrott, yet.
drivebyacct 16y ago
I have commented similarly and more conservatively of a similar opinion of Gruber on the last several high brow articles that have made it to HN. It's really become pathetic. I mean, it started with valid points but then he started sticking his nose in crummy decisions Apple had made just to defend them. It's really just annoying to see it happening because its the same illogical crap that so many people spout that I write off as being the opinion of "just another fanboy". Dunna if I have the heart to call Gruber that, but jesus
RyanMcGreal 16y ago
By now, Gruber has an awful lot invested in Apple. He has managed to carve out a clear niche as a professional Apple opinionator (aside: I have now idea how Gruber makes his living, or whether Daring Fireball generates any income). Between his firm position as the third-party go-to guy for Apple-related commentary, his inside connections in Cupertino, and the complimentary name-dropping from Steve Jobs himself, Gruber has a lot to lose by burning bridges. Right now he's an embedded correspondent, but with one wrong move, he could easily end up frozen out like Geraldo Rivera. Those connections and bona fides render him an interested party, and that interest is going to lead him toward certain opinions and away from others. I'm not suggesting he never criticizes Apple, by the way. Constructive criticism is, after all, a crucial part of loyalty; and pointing out flaws around the margins lends him a sheen of objectivity that adds verisimilitude to his cheerleading. E.g. Apple needs to be more consistent in how the app approval process is applied (though the process is good in principal).

by jlcgull 16y ago

jrockway 16y ago

I kind of like Gruber. He looks good when compared to the really hardcore Apple fanbois. Jobs' "insightful and not negative" characterization captures Gruber perfectly. I think he has had a bit too much Kool-Aid, but he is nowhere near the LD50 yet.

bmalicoat 16y ago

He has his moments but I don't think he is quite the antithesis of Thurrott, yet.

drivebyacct 16y ago

I have commented similarly and more conservatively of a similar opinion of Gruber on the last several high brow articles that have made it to HN. It's really become pathetic. I mean, it started with valid points but then he started sticking his nose in crummy decisions Apple had made just to defend them. It's really just annoying to see it happening because its the same illogical crap that so many people spout that I write off as being the opinion of "just another fanboy". Dunna if I have the heart to call Gruber that, but jesus

RyanMcGreal 16y ago

By now, Gruber has an awful lot invested in Apple. He has managed to carve out a clear niche as a professional Apple opinionator (aside: I have now idea how Gruber makes his living, or whether Daring Fireball generates any income). Between his firm position as the third-party go-to guy for Apple-related commentary, his inside connections in Cupertino, and the complimentary name-dropping from Steve Jobs himself, Gruber has a lot to lose by burning bridges. Right now he's an embedded correspondent, but with one wrong move, he could easily end up frozen out like Geraldo Rivera. Those connections and bona fides render him an interested party, and that interest is going to lead him toward certain opinions and away from others. I'm not suggesting he never criticizes Apple, by the way. Constructive criticism is, after all, a crucial part of loyalty; and pointing out flaws around the margins lends him a sheen of objectivity that adds verisimilitude to his cheerleading. E.g. Apple needs to be more consistent in how the app approval process is applied (though the process is good in principal).