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Amazon lets far worse things go unnoticed, like fake medical products. Why? Because of the money.

tajen 10y ago
Amazon has already bricked a Kindle (and the full user account) because it had "a pirate PDF", according to their automations. Just, don't but from Amazon. Even Alibaba is better.
- msh 10y ago
  Do you have a reference? Googling dont reveal any cases, only people speculating if they might do it.
  - a3_nm 10y ago
    The closest analogue I know is Amazon remotely wiping books from customer devices when Amazon noticed that they did not have the right to sell them in the first place: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18ama... (Ironically, the books were by Orwell.) There was a lawsuit which was settled http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/techflash/2009/09/amazon_settles_lawsuit_over_deleted_1984.html http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/techflash/2009/09/am... and apologies from Amazon which said they would not do it again (this was in 2009) http://mashable.com/2009/07/17/amazon-remote-delete/ http://mashable.com/2009/07/17/amazon-remote-delete/.
    - NotSammyHagar 10y ago
      Yes, that was a mistake, and they said it was a mistake, and they won't do it again. So you can't use this as a general example of how amazon behaves - unless you are arguing they listen and try to fix mistaken behavior.
      - a3_nm 10y ago
        No matter how benevolent Amazon may be, it is still problematic that, when you "buy" an ebook with them, they are technically able to remove it from your ebook reader. This is bad even if they only use this power when they mess up or when they are legally compelled to do it (an option they still explicitly allow for). So even if they apologized and promised not to do it again, the point still stands...
  - tajen 10y ago
    Yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4682392 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4682392 . There are speculations on whether the Kindle was actually wiped or whether she just couldn't use it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4684392 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4684392
    - r3bl 10y ago
      Wow, seems like it really is the case. Well, turns out my strategy of de-DRMing Kindle books[0] is more than a good suggestion, just to be on the safe side. Under my moral compass, after I have purchased one edition of the book, I have the right to convert it to whatever the hell I want. https://github.com/apprenticeharper/DeDRM_tools/ https://github.com/apprenticeharper/DeDRM_tools/
- herbst 10y ago
  Aliexpress is build on escrow. I don't think amazon is even trying to beat that kind trust.

tajen 10y ago

Amazon has already bricked a Kindle (and the full user account) because it had "a pirate PDF", according to their automations. Just, don't but from Amazon. Even Alibaba is better.

msh 10y ago
Do you have a reference? Googling dont reveal any cases, only people speculating if they might do it.
- a3_nm 10y ago
  The closest analogue I know is Amazon remotely wiping books from customer devices when Amazon noticed that they did not have the right to sell them in the first place: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18ama... (Ironically, the books were by Orwell.) There was a lawsuit which was settled http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/techflash/2009/09/amazon_settles_lawsuit_over_deleted_1984.html http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/techflash/2009/09/am... and apologies from Amazon which said they would not do it again (this was in 2009) http://mashable.com/2009/07/17/amazon-remote-delete/ http://mashable.com/2009/07/17/amazon-remote-delete/.
  - NotSammyHagar 10y ago
    Yes, that was a mistake, and they said it was a mistake, and they won't do it again. So you can't use this as a general example of how amazon behaves - unless you are arguing they listen and try to fix mistaken behavior.
    - a3_nm 10y ago
      No matter how benevolent Amazon may be, it is still problematic that, when you "buy" an ebook with them, they are technically able to remove it from your ebook reader. This is bad even if they only use this power when they mess up or when they are legally compelled to do it (an option they still explicitly allow for). So even if they apologized and promised not to do it again, the point still stands...
- tajen 10y ago
  Yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4682392 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4682392 . There are speculations on whether the Kindle was actually wiped or whether she just couldn't use it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4684392 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4684392
  - r3bl 10y ago
    Wow, seems like it really is the case. Well, turns out my strategy of de-DRMing Kindle books[0] is more than a good suggestion, just to be on the safe side. Under my moral compass, after I have purchased one edition of the book, I have the right to convert it to whatever the hell I want. https://github.com/apprenticeharper/DeDRM_tools/ https://github.com/apprenticeharper/DeDRM_tools/
herbst 10y ago
Aliexpress is build on escrow. I don't think amazon is even trying to beat that kind trust.