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> It is not like a safe European city center where you can go almost anywhere alone on foot at any time of day. Which European city are you referring to? The m
by pdog 10y ago
> It is not like a safe European city center where you can go almost anywhere alone on foot at any time of day.
Which European city are you referring to? The major European cities (e.g., Paris, London, and Berlin) don't fit this description either.
- _delirium 10y agoWhen were you last in central London or Paris? It's been a long time since Limehouse or Montparnasse were dangerous to walk in at night.
- branchless 10y agoHead out of canary wharf onto the isle of dogs. Or parts of peckham. Or West Ham. Christ.
- _delirium 10y agoIf the goal is to prove that going to some godforsaken suburb miles out into the countryside is dangerous, sure. This is true in any country. But not if you live in an actual city.
- branchless 10y agoShorter to write: i don't know London
- _delirium 10y agoAs a Cornishman, this is basically what's taught in the schools, yes. You live in a godforsaken suburb miles out of London but you pretend that, unlike us, you somehow live in a city. ;-)
- pjc50 10y ago"isle of dogs. Or parts of peckham. Or West Ham." All of these places are in London. They have London postcodes, are inside the M25, and are administered by the Mayor of London.
- PeterisP 10y agoPretty much every major city worldwide has large suburbs that have their postcodes and are administered by the same municipal government, but they're clearly not included in the "European city center" designation. They are part of the city, but not part of the city center; and for a multimillion city the difference (and distances!) are significant.
- branchless 10y agoThey are all "inner" London.
- Kurtz79 10y ago"European city center". But I know, it's a broad definition.
- orcdork 10y agoBuddy, what wonderful drug are you on? Writing this from isle of dogs, which is damn awesome, and extremely safe.
- stefek99 10y agoCanary Wharf - noone lives there - super safe at night...
- gph 10y agoYea, but that's like restricting NYC to Manhattan. I wouldn't feel that unsafe walking the majority of Manhattan at night either. Or for another city center, I go downtown inner harbor/fells point/federal hill Baltimore at night plenty. Most city centers in America are perfectly safe any time of day.
- LeanderK 10y agodon't agree with berlin either, of course some areas are more criminal (almost anywhere), but going on foot alone is still possible, even at night and i've been to most of the trouble-spots. Also: Munich, it's unbelievable safe, more boring than berlin, but safer.
- _delirium 10y agoI've been around central Berlin a good bit and honestly never had such a problem. If anything I end up with the opposite problem, I'm the foreign hipster who hasn't kept up with the trends enough to realize that this area has gentried sufficiently that I am no longer welcome here, because it's now an area for rich West Germans.
- raverbashing 10y agoAlexanderplatz and others http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/berlin/polizei/die-23-unsichersten-orte-der-stadt-wo-berlin-gefaehrlich-ist-23459052 http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/berlin/polizei/die-23-unsiche...
- fre-d-die 10y agoPersonally I feel that Berlin gives off an unsafe feeling on your first few nights but you as you stay longer you start to see there is no reason for it, I mean I remember going past a train station at night and some guy was playing some pots as drums, while some man sat cross legged with a beer listening. And another time walking up a dodgy back alley into a lively square with an outdoor cinema
- akurilin 10y agoSpeaking of Italy, you'd be hard pressed to feel endangered in Rome, Milan, Turin etc. Naples can get a bit sketchy, but even then. Switzerland and Austria also seem pretty relaxed in my experience.
- bobs_monkey 10y agoTrieste seems pretty sketchy too (easternmost major city in Northern Italy). I was traveling from Milan to Croatia, got all mixed up on trains, and got in to Trieste at about 8pm with no connecting bus to Croatia until the following morning and most hotels/hostels full for the night. Dodgy people walking around and weird vibe in general. Luckily I got a ride out that night.
- akurilin 10y agoI really enjoyed Trieste during the day a couple of years ago, delightful and historic. Haven't seen much of it at night though. It's not unlikely it's got a larger percentage of folks coming through from the Balkans / Eastern Europe than other Italian cities due to its position. There's been tension in the country in the past couple of decades due to inbound migrations from that area.
- distances 10y agoPerhaps not physically threatened, but I've been pick-pocketed both in Rome and Naples. In that regard I definitely feel much safer in, say, Berlin.
- magic_beans 10y agoYour Italian visa.
- akurilin 10y agoNot surprising at all, in Italy Naples is infamous for being the city where things disappear unless they're well nailed down.
- cel1ne 10y agoVienna / Austria is like this.