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"Some people just like owning cars." Yes I did point out that most Americans and many people are conditioned from birth to value car ownership, even when it's
by criley2 10y ago
"Some people just like owning cars."
Yes I did point out that most Americans and many people are conditioned from birth to value car ownership, even when it's a poor financial decision.
"Perfect example where Uber fails - I can't take my dog anywhere
As I told the other guy: Stop predicting failure based on problems, put on your creator and builder hat, and solve the problem.
Why not have pet friendly vehicles available at a small charge, guaranteed clean?
It bothers me that these problems are so easy to solve and yet people are so willing to write off a future possible technology without so much as thinking through any of the solutions.
- Judgmentality 10y agoYou seem very defensive. I was just pointing out that I don't own a car and live in the epicenter of the ride-sharing revolution, and I'd much rather go back to owning a car. Regarding the dog, I'm just pointing out something that currently doesn't work for me. Until they fix it I don't care - right now their solution does not help me and nobody has done anything to address it. My point is simple. Right now owning a car is better than not owning a car for me. Until that changes I will want to own a car. If you don't want to own a car then good for you - different people have different desires.
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- emodendroket 10y agoIf it's so easy to solve why don't you share the solution?
- criley2 10y agoI did. I literally did share a solution in this post, and the one before. - Commoditize storage and transport it to you on demand - Offer pet friendly cars Boom. Solved. As I also wrote: "I'm sure you could come up with a better solution if you tried." Is this hackernews, where builders come to talk about exciting ways they're solving tomorrow's problems? Am I on the wrong site?
- Judgmentality 10y agoDo you have any evidence that either of those will make money? I have evidence that pet friendly cars lose money - Uber used to have a program that catered towards dogs and they cancelled it because it lost money. You haven't solved anything until you've demonstrated a working solution. If it were so easy to fix problems in the real world, politicians would have our economy constantly booming, there would be more jobs than people, and the Middle East would be the most peaceful place on Earth. Anyway, I don't think we're going to agree on anything. I'm exiting this thread.
- vectorjohn 10y agoGive it a rest. There is no possible way he can solve it right now, we don't have self driving cars yet.
- flukus 10y ago> Uber used to have a program that catered towards dogs and they cancelled it because it lost money. By the same standard uber as a whole is not a working solution.
- emodendroket 10y agoIn fact it may not be.
- emodendroket 10y agoI thought I was here to discuss programming and related news rather than engaging in mindless boosterism.
- criley2 10y ago>"You seem very defensive. I was just pointing out that I don't own a car and live in the epicenter of the ride-sharing revolution, and I'd much rather go back to owning a car." And I was just pointing out that your personal experiences with today's ride sharing aren't relevant to a hypothetical discussion of an unrelated future transport technology. I'm defensive because you're continually derailing a thread about futuretech to list your personal experiences with todaytech. I don't get why you derail this conversation to make it emotional and personal, so I get defensive about the track of the conversation of solving tomorrow's problems. Stop taking it personally, think bigger! Solve a problem!
- kpil 10y agoI think that most people are hardwired from start to value ownership of things. You might have noticed that people are hoarding a lot of stuff, that are of little value to them. It's probably an intrinsic value to most people to own things. It might vary a little between cultures, but it seems to be a common trait. If you don't - great for you. However. It might happen that you one day walk by a car on display in a mall, and notices the nice paint, a practical laptop holder, the particularly nice storage boxes for diapers and what not, and thinks to yourself - "I want that car."
- icedchai 10y agoIt's not "car ownership" that we value. It's autonomy and independence. A teenager doesn't just "want a car." He wants that freedom that car gives him... to go somewhere without bugging his parents or friends for a ride. If you're in a big city or someplace where this is not the norm, I could see you believing otherwise. (And I laughed at "guaranteed clean." Right. All that means is you get a refund when you find the dog turd in the back seat.)
- vectorjohn 10y ago"A teenager doesn't just "want a car." He wants that freedom that car gives him." Precisely, and this is why owning the car isn't that important. This teenager presumably still has to pay for the car and fuel, or bug his parents for it. Paying for the (cheaper) self driving ride is no different.
- icedchai 10y agoSo why not call a cab? or take a bus? It is different. If you're relying on someone (or something) else, waiting around, you're not "independent."
- vectorjohn 10y agoCabs are expensive, relatively slow, and busses are just slow and don't take you to your destination. Really, this doesn't seem like much of a stretch.