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Industrial cities like Detroit and my beloved hometown of Pittsburgh have been beating Silicon Valley here pretty readily in the self-driving car space (one rea

Industrial cities like Detroit and my beloved hometown of Pittsburgh have been beating Silicon Valley here pretty readily in the self-driving car space (one reason among many is that California's immaculate weather gives engineers a false sense of confidence when testing their vehicles on its perfectly-marked freeways, causing them to completely gloss over the majority of less-stellar American roads and weather-induced driving situations; indeed, the fatal Tesla autopilot crash took place on a Pennsylvania "turnpike" highway, and not a California freeway). This happens the same day as Tesla's market cap surpasses Ford. Tesla's stock has been a real rollercoaster lately, and somehow, I just don't think the hype is justified. Remember, Tesla for a while used MobilEye (see anything geohot says about them!).

Judgmentality 10y ago
> indeed, the fatal Tesla autopilot crash took place on a Pennsylvania "turnpike" highway, and not a California freeway The fatal autopilot crash occurred in Florida, not Pennsylvania. There was also another in China.
- Hydraulix989 10y ago
  I see, so there are others that also support my argument (having been in Shanghai, I can definitely tell you that China's roads are sometimes questionable, the very erratic driver behavior that is the norm even more so). The Pennsylvania crash I was referring to in particular was this one: http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/07/07/police-investigating-tesla-autopilot-crash-on-pennsylvania-turnpike/ http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/07/07/police-investigati... Thankfully, it does look like the PA one wasn't fatal after all though. For what it's worth, Tesla also directly and very publicly disputes the driver's own personal account by claiming that autopilot wasn't enabled during the crash. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  - Judgmentality 10y ago
    Did you go to CMU? Just curious as I've seen your name pop up a few times with regards to self-driving cars.
    - Hydraulix989 10y ago
      No I didn't, but I did summer research internships there while I was in college. I was waitlisted from CMU SCS, so I "settled" for Cornell instead. ;-) The self-driving car space is just something that I like to follow very closely, given that I've had picked up a bit of domain knowledge over time.

Judgmentality 10y ago

> indeed, the fatal Tesla autopilot crash took place on a Pennsylvania "turnpike" highway, and not a California freeway The fatal autopilot crash occurred in Florida, not Pennsylvania. There was also another in China.

Hydraulix989 10y ago
I see, so there are others that also support my argument (having been in Shanghai, I can definitely tell you that China's roads are sometimes questionable, the very erratic driver behavior that is the norm even more so). The Pennsylvania crash I was referring to in particular was this one: http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/07/07/police-investigating-tesla-autopilot-crash-on-pennsylvania-turnpike/ http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/07/07/police-investigati... Thankfully, it does look like the PA one wasn't fatal after all though. For what it's worth, Tesla also directly and very publicly disputes the driver's own personal account by claiming that autopilot wasn't enabled during the crash. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- Judgmentality 10y ago
  Did you go to CMU? Just curious as I've seen your name pop up a few times with regards to self-driving cars.
  - Hydraulix989 10y ago
    No I didn't, but I did summer research internships there while I was in college. I was waitlisted from CMU SCS, so I "settled" for Cornell instead. ;-) The self-driving car space is just something that I like to follow very closely, given that I've had picked up a bit of domain knowledge over time.