> you have to be in the factory by the lathe to grind your piece out and drop it on the conveyor belt. This is the aggravating concept of "face time" which is

> you have to be in the factory by the lathe to grind your piece out and drop it on the conveyor belt. This is the aggravating concept of "face time" which is pushed onto engineers and people in areas who are not in direct sales or relationship roles. It also harkens to the prioritization of Sales over Product. At a prior job, a developer who worked with me had asked a director (non technical) why he couldn't work remotely more. He had been chastised in the past for it, despite the fact I could list his commits from our SVN. He was more productive at home, having removed commute and additional costs going to the office. This director could not provide a more ambiguous answer than "You work at the company so you should be visible here." And then, like you said, the 3 companies provide a luxury campus for employees that are actually attractive. Any annoying little fledgling developer could get dismissed with a pseudo-falsehood "Google developers go in to the office every day - why can't you?"