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Comparing stock prices directly for these two companies is ignorant - they are completely different. AT&T is an ancient telco with dividend, while Apple is a (

Comparing stock prices directly for these two companies is ignorant - they are completely different. AT&T is an ancient telco with dividend, while Apple is a (relatively) young, tech, growth stock.

hugh3 16y ago
Calling a $250 billion company a young growth stock seems somewhat ambitious. They're dominant in several product categories, a very significant player in others, and have room for really significant growth in only a few. Much like AT&T, I suppose. Personally I'm bearish on Apple's long term prospects for this reason: right now they're making a killing on selling mp3 players, a category in which they have a market share approaching 100%. But this is a dying category -- in the future people will increasingly listen to music on their phones, and Apple has some very serious competitors who aren't going to let Apple take over the entire mobile phone market.
- gte910h 16y ago
  >Apple has some very serious competitors who aren't going to let Apple take over the entire mobile phone market. Serious? Please. They'll be serious when they get standard Android releases that upgrade within months after the version release. As it is now, the MOTO Cliq is still running 1.5, and the G1 is still pegged at 1.6. As is now, android is fragmented in pretty much equal thirds (1.5, 1.6 and 2.1), and Symbian requires C++ to get much done in it. Google refuses to acknowledge that people aren't getting updates for the phones they've purchased, and that apple is eating their lunch by releasing new Os versions even for their oldest phones still. I'm very pissed off at Google here for this. I'd really like Android to be a competitive chance against the iPhone, but once the iPhone gets on Verizon, I think you're going to see Android adoption tank. Edit: Additionally, Google refuses to go the last mile to get paid developer accounts working for more than 9 countries. This blows up the Android ecosystem, as there are absurd levels of "good enough" free apps out there pushing out fantastic paid app development. And not to mention the copyright infringer aspect enabled by the busted "returns" system. It's absurd it's trivial to keep an app you pay for then return, yet they force devs to allow a user to return the app.
  - hugh3 16y ago
    I'm very pissed off at Google here for this. Clearly so.
    - gte910h 16y ago
      Yes, and both camps accuse me of being a lover for the other. As a professional app developer (mostly iPhoneOS, a little Android though), it's more my glare is leveled at the strong deficiencies in BOTH platforms.

Comparing stock prices directly for these two companies is ignorant - they are completely different. AT&T is an ancient telco with dividend, while Apple is a (relatively) young, tech, growth stock.

hugh3 16y ago

Calling a $250 billion company a young growth stock seems somewhat ambitious. They're dominant in several product categories, a very significant player in others, and have room for really significant growth in only a few. Much like AT&T, I suppose. Personally I'm bearish on Apple's long term prospects for this reason: right now they're making a killing on selling mp3 players, a category in which they have a market share approaching 100%. But this is a dying category -- in the future people will increasingly listen to music on their phones, and Apple has some very serious competitors who aren't going to let Apple take over the entire mobile phone market.

gte910h 16y ago
>Apple has some very serious competitors who aren't going to let Apple take over the entire mobile phone market. Serious? Please. They'll be serious when they get standard Android releases that upgrade within months after the version release. As it is now, the MOTO Cliq is still running 1.5, and the G1 is still pegged at 1.6. As is now, android is fragmented in pretty much equal thirds (1.5, 1.6 and 2.1), and Symbian requires C++ to get much done in it. Google refuses to acknowledge that people aren't getting updates for the phones they've purchased, and that apple is eating their lunch by releasing new Os versions even for their oldest phones still. I'm very pissed off at Google here for this. I'd really like Android to be a competitive chance against the iPhone, but once the iPhone gets on Verizon, I think you're going to see Android adoption tank. Edit: Additionally, Google refuses to go the last mile to get paid developer accounts working for more than 9 countries. This blows up the Android ecosystem, as there are absurd levels of "good enough" free apps out there pushing out fantastic paid app development. And not to mention the copyright infringer aspect enabled by the busted "returns" system. It's absurd it's trivial to keep an app you pay for then return, yet they force devs to allow a user to return the app.
- hugh3 16y ago
  I'm very pissed off at Google here for this. Clearly so.
  - gte910h 16y ago
    Yes, and both camps accuse me of being a lover for the other. As a professional app developer (mostly iPhoneOS, a little Android though), it's more my glare is leveled at the strong deficiencies in BOTH platforms.