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If I understand UK visa rules correctly, getting a work permit as someone who designs or develops tech for robots is as easy as getting a job offer from a compa

by pliny 10y ago

If I understand UK visa rules correctly, getting a work permit as someone who designs or develops tech for robots is as easy as getting a job offer from a company that wants you to design or develop tech for robots for them.

SideburnsOfDoom 10y ago
Yes, but getting a work permit from one EU member state to another is even easier. And you can put down roots there.
nkoren 10y ago
Yes, but: 1.) This doesn't help startups -- only large companies that can afford to go through the expensive and laborious visa-permit process. 2.) As a foreign worker, since your residency depends on employment, you're in a far worse bargaining position vis-a-vis salaries, so this depresses worker wages, however much the government tries to enforce the requirement that foreign workers are paid at prevailing wages. 3.) Also because your residency depends on ongoing employment, putting down roots and becoming a full-fledged member of the community is much more difficult. Source: I'm a non-EU immigrant to the UK, brought in specifically to work on automated transport technologies. The hacks I've had to go through to start my two companies here are unbelievable. The UK's immigration policies are seriously bad at attracting talent, and post-Brexit, look like they'll get much, much worse.
- golergka 10y ago
  It's almost as if the system was designed to give UK citizens advantage over you.
  - nkoren 10y ago
    I've founded two companies, employed many people, and brought in millions of pounds business to the UK. This is not a zero-sum game. None of this has been at the expense of a single UK citizen. The rules have not given UK citizens any advantage over me; they've merely penalised me. That's all.
    - golergka 10y ago
      > This is not a zero-sum game. It's not. However, it's not always the opposite, either. > The rules have not given UK citizens any advantage over me; they've merely penalised me. Advantage is always relative.

by pliny 10y ago

SideburnsOfDoom 10y ago

Yes, but getting a work permit from one EU member state to another is even easier. And you can put down roots there.

nkoren 10y ago

Yes, but: 1.) This doesn't help startups -- only large companies that can afford to go through the expensive and laborious visa-permit process. 2.) As a foreign worker, since your residency depends on employment, you're in a far worse bargaining position vis-a-vis salaries, so this depresses worker wages, however much the government tries to enforce the requirement that foreign workers are paid at prevailing wages. 3.) Also because your residency depends on ongoing employment, putting down roots and becoming a full-fledged member of the community is much more difficult. Source: I'm a non-EU immigrant to the UK, brought in specifically to work on automated transport technologies. The hacks I've had to go through to start my two companies here are unbelievable. The UK's immigration policies are seriously bad at attracting talent, and post-Brexit, look like they'll get much, much worse.

golergka 10y ago
It's almost as if the system was designed to give UK citizens advantage over you.
- nkoren 10y ago
  I've founded two companies, employed many people, and brought in millions of pounds business to the UK. This is not a zero-sum game. None of this has been at the expense of a single UK citizen. The rules have not given UK citizens any advantage over me; they've merely penalised me. That's all.
  - golergka 10y ago
    > This is not a zero-sum game. It's not. However, it's not always the opposite, either. > The rules have not given UK citizens any advantage over me; they've merely penalised me. Advantage is always relative.