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Thank you for TL;DR Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others), Narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), Psychopathy (lack of remorse and

by known 10y ago

Thank you for TL;DR Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others), Narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), Psychopathy (lack of remorse and empathy), Sadism (pleasure in suffering of others);

wingerlang 10y ago
> Psychopathy (lack of remorse and empathy), Sadism (pleasure in suffering of others) Where did you get these from? Especially the second one.
- tunap 10y ago
  Not the op, but probably because it is a confidence game, and con persons are more likely to have such traits. ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick
- blablabla123 10y ago
  Actually the second one is connected to the former. I'm too lazy to cite a reference but there is evidence that psychopaths feel relaxed when others are not. (There are a few popular documentaries about that one Youtube) Of course 'psychopath' is a spectrum, so this doesn't mean Uber management consists of complete psychopaths. Actually there are clinical psychopaths that end up being altruistic - obviously not in this case though.
  - wingerlang 10y ago
    > Actually the second one is connected to the former. Sure, but I am asking where it even came from to begin with. Like sadism, what bullet point does it apply to on the top comment? > .. but there is evidence that psychopaths feel relaxed when others are not. Also, sure it might be true but why do you even bring this point into the discussion? Does the article or comment mention anything about "calmness" (or similar)? I didn't find it but I might be missing.
    - blablabla123 10y ago
      I guess when looking at the articles about Uber from this years that made it onto the front page here, we are seeing a pattern of unethical behaviour. Even Uber admitted that something like this exists by letting go one Executive and planning to transform the company into a more benevolent direction. Why do people repeatedly do things that are bad for others and generally considered unethical, likely even being aware of that? In my opinion this needs no further explanation.
raarts 10y ago
Three out of four of these form the dark triad (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad). Sadism doesn't belong in that list. Don't see the reason for the heavy down voting. The post refers to the often suggested relatively high percentage of aggressive, sociopathic managers at Uber. EDIT: OTOH, after looking at his profile, this seems took be a template answer.
dang 10y ago
This breaks the HN guideline against name-calling. Elevating everyone's rage level by calling the most awful names you can think of does nothing for thoughtful discussion except destroy it. Please don't post like this here. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14020489 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14020489 and marked it off-topic.

by known 10y ago

wingerlang 10y ago

> Psychopathy (lack of remorse and empathy), Sadism (pleasure in suffering of others) Where did you get these from? Especially the second one.

tunap 10y ago
Not the op, but probably because it is a confidence game, and con persons are more likely to have such traits. ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick
blablabla123 10y ago
Actually the second one is connected to the former. I'm too lazy to cite a reference but there is evidence that psychopaths feel relaxed when others are not. (There are a few popular documentaries about that one Youtube) Of course 'psychopath' is a spectrum, so this doesn't mean Uber management consists of complete psychopaths. Actually there are clinical psychopaths that end up being altruistic - obviously not in this case though.
- wingerlang 10y ago
  > Actually the second one is connected to the former. Sure, but I am asking where it even came from to begin with. Like sadism, what bullet point does it apply to on the top comment? > .. but there is evidence that psychopaths feel relaxed when others are not. Also, sure it might be true but why do you even bring this point into the discussion? Does the article or comment mention anything about "calmness" (or similar)? I didn't find it but I might be missing.
  - blablabla123 10y ago
    I guess when looking at the articles about Uber from this years that made it onto the front page here, we are seeing a pattern of unethical behaviour. Even Uber admitted that something like this exists by letting go one Executive and planning to transform the company into a more benevolent direction. Why do people repeatedly do things that are bad for others and generally considered unethical, likely even being aware of that? In my opinion this needs no further explanation.

raarts 10y ago

Three out of four of these form the dark triad (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad). Sadism doesn't belong in that list. Don't see the reason for the heavy down voting. The post refers to the often suggested relatively high percentage of aggressive, sociopathic managers at Uber. EDIT: OTOH, after looking at his profile, this seems took be a template answer.

dang 10y ago

This breaks the HN guideline against name-calling. Elevating everyone's rage level by calling the most awful names you can think of does nothing for thoughtful discussion except destroy it. Please don't post like this here. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14020489 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14020489 and marked it off-topic.