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https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017#work-how-did-developers-find-their-current-job https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017#work-how-did-...

by bjd2385 10y ago

ghostly_s 10y ago
This survey is for software developers. Not IT positions. And, it only shows a plurality (26%) of hiring via network connections. And on top of that, it's a survey of Stack Overflow readers...so if you're presuming it is representative of the labor market at large, I suggest you have not received adequate education in critical thinking.
- nurettin 10y ago
  Where in the world do people need education on critical thought? How do you even educate for that? I've always thought of critical thought as a natural instinct with close ties to curiosity and survival. Unless you are trying to insult the person you are replying to.
  - icebraining 10y ago
    In college I've had a discipline¹ in critical thinking (I studied Software Engineering in Portugal). We analyzed arguments in texts presented by the teacher and written by each other. It was mostly learning by doing, and seeing others doing. ¹Is this the right word? I'm struggling to find the right translation.
    - nurettin 10y ago
      Was it really necessary? I mean, couldn't you construct structured criticisms before you attended the lecture? I'm pretty sure you could.
      - icebraining 10y ago
        Sure, and I could program too, but the course was still useful. Critical thinking is a skill, and I think there's value in training it in a methodical way and with some guidance.
      - reitanqild 10y ago
        Sure icebraining could. Now icebraining can even better.
- bjd2385 10y ago
  Honestly, if the only thing you're going to dispute me on is my very last point (which had basically nothing to do with the overall theme of my reply), I couldn't care less what your argument is. Moreover, I doubt you're the kind of person who's had to work for anything in your life.
- bjd2385 10y ago
  Honestly, if the only thing you're going to dispute me on is my very last point (which had basically nothing to do with the overall theme of my reply), I couldn't care less what your argument is. Moreover, I doubt you're the kind of person who's had to work for anything in your life.
ElysianEagle 10y ago
That survey shows that ~27% got in through some sort of connection, but the remaining ~73% didn't. So roughly 3/4 of those surveyed didn't use connections to land gigs. Am I missing something here?

https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017#work-how-did-developers-find-their-current-job https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017#work-how-did-...

by bjd2385 10y ago

https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017#work-how-did-developers-find-their-current-job https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017#work-how-did-...

ghostly_s 10y ago

This survey is for software developers. Not IT positions. And, it only shows a plurality (26%) of hiring via network connections. And on top of that, it's a survey of Stack Overflow readers...so if you're presuming it is representative of the labor market at large, I suggest you have not received adequate education in critical thinking.

nurettin 10y ago
Where in the world do people need education on critical thought? How do you even educate for that? I've always thought of critical thought as a natural instinct with close ties to curiosity and survival. Unless you are trying to insult the person you are replying to.
- icebraining 10y ago
  In college I've had a discipline¹ in critical thinking (I studied Software Engineering in Portugal). We analyzed arguments in texts presented by the teacher and written by each other. It was mostly learning by doing, and seeing others doing. ¹Is this the right word? I'm struggling to find the right translation.
  - nurettin 10y ago
    Was it really necessary? I mean, couldn't you construct structured criticisms before you attended the lecture? I'm pretty sure you could.
    - icebraining 10y ago
      Sure, and I could program too, but the course was still useful. Critical thinking is a skill, and I think there's value in training it in a methodical way and with some guidance.
    - reitanqild 10y ago
      Sure icebraining could. Now icebraining can even better.
bjd2385 10y ago
Honestly, if the only thing you're going to dispute me on is my very last point (which had basically nothing to do with the overall theme of my reply), I couldn't care less what your argument is. Moreover, I doubt you're the kind of person who's had to work for anything in your life.
bjd2385 10y ago
Honestly, if the only thing you're going to dispute me on is my very last point (which had basically nothing to do with the overall theme of my reply), I couldn't care less what your argument is. Moreover, I doubt you're the kind of person who's had to work for anything in your life.

ElysianEagle 10y ago

That survey shows that ~27% got in through some sort of connection, but the remaining ~73% didn't. So roughly 3/4 of those surveyed didn't use connections to land gigs. Am I missing something here?