> Which just screws over anybody in a rural area I actually live in a rural area. But I can see your point because I can't convince my wife to give up her car.

> Which just screws over anybody in a rural area I actually live in a rural area. But I can see your point because I can't convince my wife to give up her car. We live about 2 km outside of a small town, so it's still close enough to walk to the grocery store, bar, restaurant, etc. We're also about 2 km from the bus terminal. It costs about $25 round trip (each) to get to the nearest city and we'll go every month or two. Expensive, but still quite a bit cheaper than a car. There are more rural locations than this so I can see the need (especially if you are a farmer, or something similar). Dangerous driving is more or less accepted in society, but if you depended on your license and had it routinely removed (as opposed to fines) when you acted poorly, I think it would go a long way to improving the situation. But we also need to improve support for people who choose not to drive. I grew up in Canada and it is much harder to live the lifestyle I live now. Not impossible, but you have to give up a lot more.