> Mormons try harder to keep on the straight and narrow because their religion is less authentic - it's made up by a couple of PT Barnum types This would be ou

> Mormons try harder to keep on the straight and narrow because their religion is less authentic - it's made up by a couple of PT Barnum types This would be outrageous to day about Jews, Lutherans, Muslims ... Mormons are not a special case. At the least, if criticizing other people's religion, offer something that demonstrates thought and contributes value, not just a cheap insult, and show some respect. Mormon's origin stories are no more unbelievable than other religions', full of angels, the voice of God, ascensions to heaven, reincarnation, etc. People just give more the other stories more leeway because they are the status quo. > Whiter, higher social trust, more Christian, neighborly, higher work ethic, higher rates of marriage, more kids, fewer illegitimate kids, no grievance industry etc. Many of these factors are looked down on by people of a certain political outlook. This is a great example of a common problem of political dialog and ideas. It's not real. Which "people" does this refer to, specifically? Can you name one? Can you cite specific statements by a popular group that corroborates what you are saying? These "people" created in the mind of the commenter, who then criticizes figments of his/her own imagination. I'm not saying that to pick on the commenter, but to point out that everyone has the tendency of creating somewhat paranoid, imaginary representations of the "other" - 100% dogmatic adherents to political ideologies, hyperbolic, incorporating all the bad things we hear about these other people. Real people are complex (and not even internally consistent), generally good willed toward you, and don't object to things like high marriage rates and kids with parents.