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> I think whoever projects 40 years into the future, and sees no need to mention the words "UBI" or "property tax", is in for a surprise Sorry, but robbing Pet

> I think whoever projects 40 years into the future, and sees no need to mention the words "UBI" or "property tax", is in for a surprise Sorry, but robbing Peter to pay Paul does not strike me as a viable long term strategy either. Much like the current brain drain from other countries to the West, the reverse could easily occur; the talented and wealthy could leave for other countries and find success there. A saner approach would be re-defining full-time employment to 35 hours or even 30 hours and vigorously enforcing overtime pay requirements, to spread out employment among more people, and taking strong measures to get the cost of living under control enough that single-income households become viable again, so that people can take care of their families and have more time to rebuild the social bonds of their community.

FLUX-YOU 10y ago
>the talented and wealthy could leave for other countries and find success there. And those governments could suddenly realize there is nothing really protecting these people and then tax the hell out of them or just take their stuff. America and the world would be too busy dealing with the mass unemployment of its middle class, no one's going to notice some rich kids getting robbed on an island country.
thatfrenchguy 10y ago
> full-time employment to 35 hour Never going to happen, how are you going to make fun of the French otherwise for having a life ? :/
groestl 10y ago
> Sorry, but robbing Peter to pay Paul does not strike me as a viable long term strategy either. Of course that's not a viable long term strategy. The viable long term strategy is Peter giving away decent food and shelter to Paul freely. The smart Peters of the world do that already, because they know: if we ever reach the point where a majority of Pauls need to rob Peters for food and shelter, they might not stop at food and shelter alone. > ...to spread out employment among more people I'm with you here. Whatever is left in terms of human employment, it better be distributed as wide as possible.

FLUX-YOU 10y ago

>the talented and wealthy could leave for other countries and find success there. And those governments could suddenly realize there is nothing really protecting these people and then tax the hell out of them or just take their stuff. America and the world would be too busy dealing with the mass unemployment of its middle class, no one's going to notice some rich kids getting robbed on an island country.

thatfrenchguy 10y ago

> full-time employment to 35 hour Never going to happen, how are you going to make fun of the French otherwise for having a life ? :/

groestl 10y ago

> Sorry, but robbing Peter to pay Paul does not strike me as a viable long term strategy either. Of course that's not a viable long term strategy. The viable long term strategy is Peter giving away decent food and shelter to Paul freely. The smart Peters of the world do that already, because they know: if we ever reach the point where a majority of Pauls need to rob Peters for food and shelter, they might not stop at food and shelter alone. > ...to spread out employment among more people I'm with you here. Whatever is left in terms of human employment, it better be distributed as wide as possible.