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I live with someone else who pretty much controls the wifi/router (billing account) I pay for it too. Anyway, how do I explain the need to do this? Are there no

by ge96 10y ago

I live with someone else who pretty much controls the wifi/router (billing account) I pay for it too. Anyway, how do I explain the need to do this? Are there notable adverse effects besides being targeted for certain products. It's hard to argue with this person, whenever I bring up stuff like "Hey man, don't be so quick to connect to open wifi" meh... rah rah rah... and I'm not really great at arguing I'll admit and I can't prove/explain why it's bad to use free public WiFi. I just think of apps that are already logged in, and if they're not using HTTPs. "Packet sniffing" but what is that... hahaha my internet bandwidth says one thing, sad single man, no need to study my data hahaha edit: also last time I tried to setup/use VPN's they either cost money or I couldn't get it to work. With regard to using Tor it's super laggy which is understandable. Ahh well I think for now I'll be a "stick my head in the sand" guy since this seems like a lot of trouble to get more than one person to agree/implement it, especially being in my situation. Still sucks though, what the hell, always about the money.

mirimir 10y ago
You don't need to setup VPN in the router. Decent providers have Windows and OSX apps that just work. Getting leak-free VPN connections in smartphones is harder, however.
- ge96 10y ago
  Why only smart phones? Yeah I guess I was thinking when I considered having to make it work for both of us. Although... I don't know pretty tired right now can't quite think. I didn't mean to imply "in the router" I meant route traffic to VPN, I mean I guess I wouldn't have to tell the other person that we're now using a VPN assuming the internet speed isn't affected, we're using the 1000Mbps Google Fiber (haha ridiculous I know) edit: throttle = better? Can't seem to reply to your post. Oh well, I don't want to replace Reddit with Hacker News haha, I used to be on Reddit but banned myself. I talk too much, especially more important to my clients when I go through what I'm thinking/doing word for word on Slack for example Jesus... self control is my problem, case in point.
  - mirimir 10y ago
    I don't know Android or iOS, so I'm just repeating what I've read. I vaguely understand that, because you lack administrative privileges, you can't readily control how particular apps access the Internet. Maybe someone could clarify for us? If you just run VPN clients in your devices, there will be no effect on the other person's devices. If anything, using VPNs will throttle your connections, so they'll have better speed. That's especially likely with a gigabit uplink.
    - ge96 10y ago
      Oh that's right I remember, Jesus I was off. Yeah I was trying a few, can't remember if I tried OpenVPN, AirVPN, and tunnelBear or something. Had to work on command line... yeah I couldn't get it to work if it was a free one (not free I wasn't trying to pay). Yeah I feel dumb now with the external configuration question. Anyway thanks for your time, I suppose if I really needed/wanted to I can figure it out, I think I can read haha.
      - mirimir 10y ago
        It's hard to get honest advice about VPNs. As Brian describes. That One Privacy Site has a good summary of what VPN providers say about themselves.[0] I tested a bunch of VPNs in Windows and OSX, and found several that I couldn't make leak.[1] There are relatively unbiased discussions on Wilders Security Forums.[2] 0) https://thatoneprivacysite.net/ https://thatoneprivacysite.net/ 1) https://vpntesting.info/ https://vpntesting.info/ 2) https://www.wilderssecurity.com/categories/privacy-related-topics.39/ https://www.wilderssecurity.com/categories/privacy-related-t...
        ge96 10y ago
        Thanks a lot for these links. Starting your count from 0? Come on now... haha.
  - shalmanese 10y ago
    If your ISP is already Google, it's not clear just how much additional privacy you'll gain from blocking snooping by Google the ISP but not Google the search engine and analytics provider.

by ge96 10y ago

mirimir 10y ago

You don't need to setup VPN in the router. Decent providers have Windows and OSX apps that just work. Getting leak-free VPN connections in smartphones is harder, however.

ge96 10y ago
Why only smart phones? Yeah I guess I was thinking when I considered having to make it work for both of us. Although... I don't know pretty tired right now can't quite think. I didn't mean to imply "in the router" I meant route traffic to VPN, I mean I guess I wouldn't have to tell the other person that we're now using a VPN assuming the internet speed isn't affected, we're using the 1000Mbps Google Fiber (haha ridiculous I know) edit: throttle = better? Can't seem to reply to your post. Oh well, I don't want to replace Reddit with Hacker News haha, I used to be on Reddit but banned myself. I talk too much, especially more important to my clients when I go through what I'm thinking/doing word for word on Slack for example Jesus... self control is my problem, case in point.
- mirimir 10y ago
  I don't know Android or iOS, so I'm just repeating what I've read. I vaguely understand that, because you lack administrative privileges, you can't readily control how particular apps access the Internet. Maybe someone could clarify for us? If you just run VPN clients in your devices, there will be no effect on the other person's devices. If anything, using VPNs will throttle your connections, so they'll have better speed. That's especially likely with a gigabit uplink.
  - ge96 10y ago
    Oh that's right I remember, Jesus I was off. Yeah I was trying a few, can't remember if I tried OpenVPN, AirVPN, and tunnelBear or something. Had to work on command line... yeah I couldn't get it to work if it was a free one (not free I wasn't trying to pay). Yeah I feel dumb now with the external configuration question. Anyway thanks for your time, I suppose if I really needed/wanted to I can figure it out, I think I can read haha.
    - mirimir 10y ago
      It's hard to get honest advice about VPNs. As Brian describes. That One Privacy Site has a good summary of what VPN providers say about themselves.[0] I tested a bunch of VPNs in Windows and OSX, and found several that I couldn't make leak.[1] There are relatively unbiased discussions on Wilders Security Forums.[2] 0) https://thatoneprivacysite.net/ https://thatoneprivacysite.net/ 1) https://vpntesting.info/ https://vpntesting.info/ 2) https://www.wilderssecurity.com/categories/privacy-related-topics.39/ https://www.wilderssecurity.com/categories/privacy-related-t...
      - ge96 10y ago
        Thanks a lot for these links. Starting your count from 0? Come on now... haha.
- shalmanese 10y ago
  If your ISP is already Google, it's not clear just how much additional privacy you'll gain from blocking snooping by Google the ISP but not Google the search engine and analytics provider.