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My experience as an Android developer is that samsung phones are garbage. The ones I tested perform so much worse than same generation Google devices that it f

My experience as an Android developer is that samsung phones are garbage. The ones I tested perform so much worse than same generation Google devices that it feels like a joke. Samsung also does freaky stuff to AOSP, like making some random fields static, leading to some nice samsung bugs. As far as the OS features and apps, I don't really expect anything better from them. Think of a feature, Samsung has probably already implemented it. It is probably going to be clunky and badly thought out but it will be there. Sometimes it leads to interesting things though, like larger phones. There are other shitty OEMs, but since Samsung has such large sales, it makes them all the more annoying to deal with.

jazoom 10y ago
Back when I was developing Android apps I grew to dislike Samsung for these very reasons. At least they are now letting people put the "back" button on the left.
QSIITurbo 10y ago
As a user, my experience is the opposite (Note 3). And that's what matters in the long run. The question is more whether they can keep up bringing new stuff into their high-end phones. Apple was not able to do so.
- monkmartinez 10y ago
  Note 3 here too, currently looking at the S8+ with rational techno lust. I am a samsung fanboy, as I wouldn't buy any other Android phone. I may wait to see what the iPhone 8 looks like before I jump... although the pre-order with GearVR seems like a really good deal.
  - QSIITurbo 10y ago
    I'm actually considering just buying a new battery for my Note 3 and S8+ is way out of my price range for maybe two years and the competitors are offering interesting phones at very low price-point. I'm amazed how ahead of time the Note 3 was and is such a perfect phone still. (For example a lot of cores for sharing network connections etc.) It only lacks the fingerprint reader and water-proofing that I'd like. And I'd rather have a phone that allows easily replacing the battery but we'll see.
- on_and_off 10y ago
  > they can keep up bringing new stuff into their high-end phones Please no .. if they could start bringing less features but well integrated and thought out ones, that would be awesome. Right now they seem to see their products as a collection of random gimmicks without thought or cohesion. The placement of the sensor of their new phone makes me think that they have not changed their way of thinking just yet ... As of what matters in the long run, sure they can get away with mediocre products right now. After all, even the worst phone on the planet (and I am not saying that it is necessarily a samsung phone) is still a marvel of technology. However, it makes them open to competitors bringing better products.. IMO the low margin game is what really protects them and matters right now.

jazoom 10y ago

Back when I was developing Android apps I grew to dislike Samsung for these very reasons. At least they are now letting people put the "back" button on the left.

QSIITurbo 10y ago

As a user, my experience is the opposite (Note 3). And that's what matters in the long run. The question is more whether they can keep up bringing new stuff into their high-end phones. Apple was not able to do so.

monkmartinez 10y ago
Note 3 here too, currently looking at the S8+ with rational techno lust. I am a samsung fanboy, as I wouldn't buy any other Android phone. I may wait to see what the iPhone 8 looks like before I jump... although the pre-order with GearVR seems like a really good deal.
- QSIITurbo 10y ago
  I'm actually considering just buying a new battery for my Note 3 and S8+ is way out of my price range for maybe two years and the competitors are offering interesting phones at very low price-point. I'm amazed how ahead of time the Note 3 was and is such a perfect phone still. (For example a lot of cores for sharing network connections etc.) It only lacks the fingerprint reader and water-proofing that I'd like. And I'd rather have a phone that allows easily replacing the battery but we'll see.
on_and_off 10y ago
> they can keep up bringing new stuff into their high-end phones Please no .. if they could start bringing less features but well integrated and thought out ones, that would be awesome. Right now they seem to see their products as a collection of random gimmicks without thought or cohesion. The placement of the sensor of their new phone makes me think that they have not changed their way of thinking just yet ... As of what matters in the long run, sure they can get away with mediocre products right now. After all, even the worst phone on the planet (and I am not saying that it is necessarily a samsung phone) is still a marvel of technology. However, it makes them open to competitors bringing better products.. IMO the low margin game is what really protects them and matters right now.