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Samsung is terrible with their OS, if they switched phones to a software similar to their TVs, that would instantly kill their mobile division. Maybe they shou

Samsung is terrible with their OS, if they switched phones to a software similar to their TVs, that would instantly kill their mobile division. Maybe they should look into bringing an AOSP phone without any cloud services (not only without Google, but without any; or at least easily uninstallable, unlike their current offering) and capitalize on recent anti-Google and anti-spying sentiment. That would require renegotiating their contract with Google through.

lvillani 10y ago
As far as I understand it, having the right to sell a phone with Google Play Services is an all-or-nothing situation. > The OHA is a group of companies committed to Android—Google's Android—and members are contractually prohibited from building non-Google approved devices. That's right, joining the OHA requires a company to sign its life away and promise to not build a device that runs a competing Android fork. (cit. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/3/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on...)
- on_and_off 10y ago
  Samsung probably has the position of strength to push for a phone without play services. However that's a lot of stuff that suddenly needs to be replaced and I don't see Samsung able to pull of correctly half of Play Services.
  - endemic 10y ago
    Exactly the reason why Samsung is maintaining software that duplicates functionality already offered by Google.
  - hocuspocus 10y ago
    > Samsung probably has the position of strength to push for a phone without play services. No they aren't. The first Galaxy Gear ran a non-certified version of Android and Google got really upset about it. Launching a phone would be suicide. As for the alternative services they already have a lot of stuff for the Chinese market and Tizen phones.
skdotdan 10y ago
Then just fork Android, but in a way that let them build their own ecosystem. Otherwise they are dead.

lvillani 10y ago

As far as I understand it, having the right to sell a phone with Google Play Services is an all-or-nothing situation. > The OHA is a group of companies committed to Android—Google's Android—and members are contractually prohibited from building non-Google approved devices. That's right, joining the OHA requires a company to sign its life away and promise to not build a device that runs a competing Android fork. (cit. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/3/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on...)

on_and_off 10y ago
Samsung probably has the position of strength to push for a phone without play services. However that's a lot of stuff that suddenly needs to be replaced and I don't see Samsung able to pull of correctly half of Play Services.
- endemic 10y ago
  Exactly the reason why Samsung is maintaining software that duplicates functionality already offered by Google.
- hocuspocus 10y ago
  > Samsung probably has the position of strength to push for a phone without play services. No they aren't. The first Galaxy Gear ran a non-certified version of Android and Google got really upset about it. Launching a phone would be suicide. As for the alternative services they already have a lot of stuff for the Chinese market and Tizen phones.

skdotdan 10y ago

Then just fork Android, but in a way that let them build their own ecosystem. Otherwise they are dead.