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Samsung should ship their phones with Tizen instead of Android. In the long term you are dead if you don't control your own software. They could build a "Andro
by skdotdan 10y ago
Samsung should ship their phones with Tizen instead of Android. In the long term you are dead if you don't control your own software.
They could build a "Android bridge" (an Android runtime for Tizen) and partner with the main app developers (in particular, Facebook) to upload their Android apps on Samsung's own store.
It would be extremely risky but also it would pay off. Otherwise, they will be crushed in the Android phones commoditization race to bottom.
- vetinari 10y agoSamsung is terrible with their OS, if they switched phones to a software similar to their TVs, that would instantly kill their mobile division. Maybe they should look into bringing an AOSP phone without any cloud services (not only without Google, but without any; or at least easily uninstallable, unlike their current offering) and capitalize on recent anti-Google and anti-spying sentiment. That would require renegotiating their contract with Google through.
- lvillani 10y agoAs far as I understand it, having the right to sell a phone with Google Play Services is an all-or-nothing situation. > The OHA is a group of companies committed to Android—Google's Android—and members are contractually prohibited from building non-Google approved devices. That's right, joining the OHA requires a company to sign its life away and promise to not build a device that runs a competing Android fork. (cit. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/3/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on...)
- on_and_off 10y agoSamsung probably has the position of strength to push for a phone without play services. However that's a lot of stuff that suddenly needs to be replaced and I don't see Samsung able to pull of correctly half of Play Services.
- endemic 10y agoExactly the reason why Samsung is maintaining software that duplicates functionality already offered by Google.
- hocuspocus 10y ago> Samsung probably has the position of strength to push for a phone without play services. No they aren't. The first Galaxy Gear ran a non-certified version of Android and Google got really upset about it. Launching a phone would be suicide. As for the alternative services they already have a lot of stuff for the Chinese market and Tizen phones.
- skdotdan 10y agoThen just fork Android, but in a way that let them build their own ecosystem. Otherwise they are dead.
- on_and_off 10y agoah ! IIRC it was their plan for 2016's Galaxy S. They have just been too comically bad at software in order to pull it off though.
- pjmlp 10y agoTizen is a joke, they seem to want to beat Microsoft in how many times one reboots the SDK. Latest change of mind is that future Tizen apps will be written in .NET Core with Xamarin Forms for the UI.
- skdotdan 10y agoThey "only" have to offer an Android runtime. Maybe an Android fork would do better.
- pjmlp 10y agoSure, because being better at Win32 than Windows really helped OS/2. Or if you want to stay in Android, offering Android runtimes did wonders for the market issues from BlackBerry and Jolla.
- tsiki 10y agoHow exactly would that premise be different from the Microsoft/Nokia disaster?
- skdotdan 10y agoMicrosoft never had an ecosystem of applications. Samsung would, if offered an Android runtime and made that developers resubmitted their Android apps to their own store. Samsung has enough market share to force them to do so.