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Simpler solution is just to move to a saner country: Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK (for now) etc. Places where ISPs don't operate as monopolies, and/or

Simpler solution is just to move to a saner country: Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK (for now) etc. Places where ISPs don't operate as monopolies, and/or places where the government isn't completely for profit.

arkadiyt 10y ago
The UK has awful internet/privacy laws, much worse than the US even. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_Uni...: "The country was listed among the "Enemies of the Internet" in 2014 by Reporters Without Borders,[6] a category of countries with the highest level of internet censorship and surveillance that "mark themselves out not just for their capacity to censor news and information online but also for their almost systematic repression of Internet users".[7] Other major economies listed in this category include China, Iran, Pakistan, Russia and Saudi Arabia."
- AdeptusAquinas 10y ago
  Fair enough, though I would say its hard to qualify as a bigger enemy of the internet than a nation that judges all traffic of all users is allowed to be captured and sold at its source.
  - endgame 10y ago
    http://web.archive.org/web/20110422071744/http://www.hitwise.com/us/about-us/how-we-do-it http://web.archive.org/web/20110422071744/http://www.hitwise...
endgame 10y ago
Australia? We're not doing too well. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-17/what-is-metadata-how-will-it-be-defined-by-new-australia-laws/6325908 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-17/what-is-metadata-how-w...
- r3bl 10y ago
  Surprisingly, I think that less developed countries are doing better than the top X developed countries. For example, I'm from the former Yugoslav region. Other than the occasional filtering by the mobile providers to give people free access to Facebook/WhatsApp/Instagram/whatever, the governments simply don't care about reducing Internet freedoms, and, even if they do, they don't have the capacity (or knowledge) to do so. Out Internet connections might not be the best (I'm paying about 20e for 80/20 Mbps), but being able to run a Tor exit node for years (before switching to running a hidden bridge) without being worried about having cops at your doors is something nice to have. You can't even get into trouble by pirating because it's a small market, and major studios don't have offices in those less developed countries. The only registered way you could possibly get in trouble by pirating is by using pirated Windows licenses in your business, since Microsoft is the only tech company that actually has offices in this region and enforces copyright in local courts.
  - fragmede 10y ago
    On a forum where there are a lot of software developers, the fact that their work can freely be stolen "because it's a small market" may not be as much of a selling point as you'd think.

arkadiyt 10y ago

The UK has awful internet/privacy laws, much worse than the US even. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_Uni...: "The country was listed among the "Enemies of the Internet" in 2014 by Reporters Without Borders,[6] a category of countries with the highest level of internet censorship and surveillance that "mark themselves out not just for their capacity to censor news and information online but also for their almost systematic repression of Internet users".[7] Other major economies listed in this category include China, Iran, Pakistan, Russia and Saudi Arabia."

AdeptusAquinas 10y ago
Fair enough, though I would say its hard to qualify as a bigger enemy of the internet than a nation that judges all traffic of all users is allowed to be captured and sold at its source.
- endgame 10y ago
  http://web.archive.org/web/20110422071744/http://www.hitwise.com/us/about-us/how-we-do-it http://web.archive.org/web/20110422071744/http://www.hitwise...

endgame 10y ago

Australia? We're not doing too well. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-17/what-is-metadata-how-will-it-be-defined-by-new-australia-laws/6325908 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-17/what-is-metadata-how-w...

r3bl 10y ago
Surprisingly, I think that less developed countries are doing better than the top X developed countries. For example, I'm from the former Yugoslav region. Other than the occasional filtering by the mobile providers to give people free access to Facebook/WhatsApp/Instagram/whatever, the governments simply don't care about reducing Internet freedoms, and, even if they do, they don't have the capacity (or knowledge) to do so. Out Internet connections might not be the best (I'm paying about 20e for 80/20 Mbps), but being able to run a Tor exit node for years (before switching to running a hidden bridge) without being worried about having cops at your doors is something nice to have. You can't even get into trouble by pirating because it's a small market, and major studios don't have offices in those less developed countries. The only registered way you could possibly get in trouble by pirating is by using pirated Windows licenses in your business, since Microsoft is the only tech company that actually has offices in this region and enforces copyright in local courts.
- fragmede 10y ago
  On a forum where there are a lot of software developers, the fact that their work can freely be stolen "because it's a small market" may not be as much of a selling point as you'd think.