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That's substantially overstating the case. The TR-808 is an iconic drum machine, but you're far more likely to hear a cut-up sample of the Amen Break or the Fun

That's substantially overstating the case. The TR-808 is an iconic drum machine, but you're far more likely to hear a cut-up sample of the Amen Break or the Funky Drummer Break. The importance of the TR-808, TR-909 and TB-303 is largely accidental. These units were a commercial failure and gained cult success largely because they could be bought cheaply. In much the same way, grunge musicians tended to use whatever horrible old guitars were languishing at the back of pawn shops - Fender Jaguars and Jazzmasters, Mosrites, Teiscos and Danelectros. In my opinion, by far the most important work done by Roland was the development of the MIDI standard. Ikutaro Kakehashi and Dave Smith moved mountains to get the industry to agree on a common standard. MIDI was the starting pistol for the modern age of music production. http://www.whosampled.com/The-Winstons/Amen,-Brother/ http://www.whosampled.com/The-Winstons/Amen,-Brother/ http://www.whosampled.com/James-Brown/Funky-Drummer/ http://www.whosampled.com/James-Brown/Funky-Drummer/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac

betaby 10y ago
Frequently amen break and others are replayed and not sampled. Some of those on the link not even amen breaks. Whosampled has tons of the false reports - many of those are not samples but replays, either on 'real' drums or drum machines. Whosampled more accurately is who borrowed
- jdietrich 10y ago
  A novice producer was walking in the forest with Sensei Akai. The novice asked Akai "If I extract the groove from the Amen Break using Beat Detective, then replay it with identical-sounding samples, is it still the Amen Break?". Sensei Akai replied "Mu". The novice was enlightened.
SyneRyder 10y ago
> grunge musicians tended to use whatever horrible old guitars were languishing at the back of pawn shops Roland had a connection to grunge too - Boss effects pedals were a division of Roland, and Kurt Cobain used the DS-1 and DS-2 Distortion pedals on Nirvana's albums. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_Corporation
stephancoral 10y ago
>The TR-808 is an iconic drum machine, but you're far more likely to hear a cut-up sample of the Amen Break or the Funky Drummer Break. Lol it's not 1993 anymore dude. If you listen to ANY hiphop track now, especially ones charting such as Migos, Future, (not dancehall) Drake etc there's an 808 hi hat as the rhythm and a subsonic 808 kick as the bass. This combo is the basis of an entire sound that comprises both underground and mainstream (read: number one in the nation) music. The 808's influence is massive and can hardly be overstated - it's like overstating the influence of the electric guitar on rock. Rappers and producers constantly shout it out more so than any other piece of equipment save for maybe microphones / turntables. "Just a snare and the 808" one of Lil Wayne's iconic lines. One of Kanye's biggest albums is "808s and Heartbreak". The 808 Mafia is one of the most influential production teams of the past decade. And this is a piece of technology that came out in 1980.

betaby 10y ago

Frequently amen break and others are replayed and not sampled. Some of those on the link not even amen breaks. Whosampled has tons of the false reports - many of those are not samples but replays, either on 'real' drums or drum machines. Whosampled more accurately is who borrowed

jdietrich 10y ago
A novice producer was walking in the forest with Sensei Akai. The novice asked Akai "If I extract the groove from the Amen Break using Beat Detective, then replay it with identical-sounding samples, is it still the Amen Break?". Sensei Akai replied "Mu". The novice was enlightened.

SyneRyder 10y ago

> grunge musicians tended to use whatever horrible old guitars were languishing at the back of pawn shops Roland had a connection to grunge too - Boss effects pedals were a division of Roland, and Kurt Cobain used the DS-1 and DS-2 Distortion pedals on Nirvana's albums. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_Corporation

stephancoral 10y ago

>The TR-808 is an iconic drum machine, but you're far more likely to hear a cut-up sample of the Amen Break or the Funky Drummer Break. Lol it's not 1993 anymore dude. If you listen to ANY hiphop track now, especially ones charting such as Migos, Future, (not dancehall) Drake etc there's an 808 hi hat as the rhythm and a subsonic 808 kick as the bass. This combo is the basis of an entire sound that comprises both underground and mainstream (read: number one in the nation) music. The 808's influence is massive and can hardly be overstated - it's like overstating the influence of the electric guitar on rock. Rappers and producers constantly shout it out more so than any other piece of equipment save for maybe microphones / turntables. "Just a snare and the 808" one of Lil Wayne's iconic lines. One of Kanye's biggest albums is "808s and Heartbreak". The 808 Mafia is one of the most influential production teams of the past decade. And this is a piece of technology that came out in 1980.