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From the comments: "As a former consular officer, I must point out that Ms. Rampell is ill informed. There are two broad classifications of U.S. visas: immigra

by mythrwy 10y ago

From the comments: "As a former consular officer, I must point out that Ms. Rampell is ill informed. There are two broad classifications of U.S. visas: immigrant and non-immigrant. Immigrant visa do confer legal immigrant status. Non-immigrant visas, as the name suggests, do not. They allow a person to enter the U.S. for a specific time and purpose. H-1B are non-immigrant visas. Keerthi Ranjith, who is highlighted in the story, did not have an H1-B; she had an H4 visa, a visa for "dependent spouses of H-1B nonimmigrants" (see https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/tempor.. https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/tempor... Obviously, Ms Rampell did not do her due diligence. H1-B visa confer the right to enter the U.S. for a specific purpose (temporary employment for a specific employer) , but do not guarantee a permanent right to reside in the U.S. The U.S. Government made no such promise (even if her husband's employer made such a promise)." In short, not an immigrant, did not have an immigrant visa. So once again Washington Post tortures headlines (and indeed facts).

gnufied 10y ago
You are not wrong entirely. But H4 EAD isn't a blanket permission to all H4 visa holders. "Is the principal beneficiary of an approved Form I-140, Immigrant Petition for Alien Worker;"[1] https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-workers/employment-authorization-certain-h-4-dependent-spouses https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-worker...
Clubber 10y ago
It's an opinion piece, and that's usually what everyone says, "It's an opinion piece, it's not news." I would hope a newspaper would require their opinion authors to verify their supporting information at least. I understand that opinion pieces are meant to sway readers one way or another, but they shouldn't be allowed by the company to be underhanded in doing so, willfully or not. The piece of misinformation you cited wouldn't sway everyone, but at least readers would be free to decide themselves in an informed manner. I mean that's why I read stuff, to be informed, it makes it useful to me. It just goes to show how entertainment based (tabloid) US "news" has gotten (all denominations.)
- virtuabhi 10y ago
  Please look at my reply to parent comment. There is nothing incorrect in the article.
- AdamJacobMuller 10y ago
  I don't care if its an opinion piece, I care that its read as and promoted as being more like standard reporting. The line between opinion pieces and journalism, well, I'd say its blurry but I don't think it is anymore, I think its ceased to exist and that's a very bad thing indeed. I want a banner on top that says something like "While WaPo is happy to give Mrs Rampall a platform to voice her opinion, we would like to remind our readers that this article is opinion and does not necessarily represent the views of WaPo and is not held to the same standards of journalism that WaPo holds its regular contributors."
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- mythrwy 10y ago
  Understood. And I get that this article touches on a topic of particular concern. And it is worth noting and discussing. But for the sweet love of Darwin, can we please get an objective factual take on the situation instead of this partisan half true clickbait? Please? I really like this site. I don't want to see articles on the front page every day that are so intent on discrediting some political party that they stoop to any kind of half truth and use sensational rather than factual headlines. It's killing me here.
virtuabhi 10y ago
I don't think you have the background knowledge about H1B and H4 visas. How the system worked is basically a person gets H1B visa, moves to US with his family. Or, has H1B visa and marries later. Now the spouse is under H4 visa. It means s/he cannot work till the person with H1B visa is very close to getting green card. Effectively, it means that the spouse has to stop career for close to 10 years. Obama administration allowed H4 visa holders to work under certain conditions. Jeff Sessions (who is considered racist at worst, to racially insensitive at best) has no desire to support that resolution after it was challenged in court. So this has not much to do with whether it is immigrant or non-immigrant visa. Here is a video posted on the website of groups fighting for removal of H4 work permit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyh_q4uxG4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyh_q4uxG4o

by mythrwy 10y ago

gnufied 10y ago

You are not wrong entirely. But H4 EAD isn't a blanket permission to all H4 visa holders. "Is the principal beneficiary of an approved Form I-140, Immigrant Petition for Alien Worker;"[1] https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-workers/employment-authorization-certain-h-4-dependent-spouses https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-worker...

Clubber 10y ago

It's an opinion piece, and that's usually what everyone says, "It's an opinion piece, it's not news." I would hope a newspaper would require their opinion authors to verify their supporting information at least. I understand that opinion pieces are meant to sway readers one way or another, but they shouldn't be allowed by the company to be underhanded in doing so, willfully or not. The piece of misinformation you cited wouldn't sway everyone, but at least readers would be free to decide themselves in an informed manner. I mean that's why I read stuff, to be informed, it makes it useful to me. It just goes to show how entertainment based (tabloid) US "news" has gotten (all denominations.)

virtuabhi 10y ago
Please look at my reply to parent comment. There is nothing incorrect in the article.
AdamJacobMuller 10y ago
I don't care if its an opinion piece, I care that its read as and promoted as being more like standard reporting. The line between opinion pieces and journalism, well, I'd say its blurry but I don't think it is anymore, I think its ceased to exist and that's a very bad thing indeed. I want a banner on top that says something like "While WaPo is happy to give Mrs Rampall a platform to voice her opinion, we would like to remind our readers that this article is opinion and does not necessarily represent the views of WaPo and is not held to the same standards of journalism that WaPo holds its regular contributors."
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mythrwy 10y ago
Understood. And I get that this article touches on a topic of particular concern. And it is worth noting and discussing. But for the sweet love of Darwin, can we please get an objective factual take on the situation instead of this partisan half true clickbait? Please? I really like this site. I don't want to see articles on the front page every day that are so intent on discrediting some political party that they stoop to any kind of half truth and use sensational rather than factual headlines. It's killing me here.

virtuabhi 10y ago

I don't think you have the background knowledge about H1B and H4 visas. How the system worked is basically a person gets H1B visa, moves to US with his family. Or, has H1B visa and marries later. Now the spouse is under H4 visa. It means s/he cannot work till the person with H1B visa is very close to getting green card. Effectively, it means that the spouse has to stop career for close to 10 years. Obama administration allowed H4 visa holders to work under certain conditions. Jeff Sessions (who is considered racist at worst, to racially insensitive at best) has no desire to support that resolution after it was challenged in court. So this has not much to do with whether it is immigrant or non-immigrant visa. Here is a video posted on the website of groups fighting for removal of H4 work permit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyh_q4uxG4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyh_q4uxG4o