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There was a time where people made this sentiment about atheism and 'excised' people who claimed the earth orbited the sun. Don't you see that? This is a one w

There was a time where people made this sentiment about atheism and 'excised' people who claimed the earth orbited the sun. Don't you see that? This is a one way street, and we should not fear ideas. Today it's one you agree with supressing, tomorrow it might not be. (Edit: I'm not talking about hackernews here, any specific forum/group should be allowed to moderate and that's up to them alone, I'm talking more generally in society)

eropple 10y ago
Oh, "don't I see?". Hmm. Let's see a little more: were atheists declaring that Jews should be thrown out of their homes for the crime of being Jewish? Or even anything remotely similar? No? Well, then, how strange that you would so readily bring up something wholly unlike the situation at hand. Providing air cover for literal-not-figurative fascists and their cheerleaders has an absolute and irrefutable difference of kind to it. Let's actually pay attention to what's being said instead of doing the chin-stroking, pince-nez-adjusting, context-only-matters-when-it-bolsters-my-argument thing.
- cyberpunk 10y ago
  No need to get so agressive, can't we talk like adults? I don't think it's unlike the other because I've not been talking about the justification for wanting to supress/remove them instead the morality of doing so. However abhorrent we find someone else's views doesn't enable us to silence them. Isn't it relevant to point out that there were people (majorities, in fact) who had the same kind of reaction to things we find acceptible today as we do to these nasty racists? They too felt they were justifified.
  - eropple 10y ago
    When I'm being aggressive, I will be sure to let you know. I will underline it, if you'd like. I would consider standing by while others threaten to harm people based on their ethnicity to be as immature, as un-adult, a thing as can be done. Giving the playground bullies--and their adult counterparts in the ranks of the literal-not-figurative fascists--room to instill fear and to threaten the oppressed into silence is not what adults do. But it's interesting that you focus on adult rather than decent or just. Edifying, even.
ams6110 10y ago
HN is not the town square. It's perfectly acceptable for there to be boundaries here on subject matter allowed.

eropple 10y ago

Oh, "don't I see?". Hmm. Let's see a little more: were atheists declaring that Jews should be thrown out of their homes for the crime of being Jewish? Or even anything remotely similar? No? Well, then, how strange that you would so readily bring up something wholly unlike the situation at hand. Providing air cover for literal-not-figurative fascists and their cheerleaders has an absolute and irrefutable difference of kind to it. Let's actually pay attention to what's being said instead of doing the chin-stroking, pince-nez-adjusting, context-only-matters-when-it-bolsters-my-argument thing.

cyberpunk 10y ago
No need to get so agressive, can't we talk like adults? I don't think it's unlike the other because I've not been talking about the justification for wanting to supress/remove them instead the morality of doing so. However abhorrent we find someone else's views doesn't enable us to silence them. Isn't it relevant to point out that there were people (majorities, in fact) who had the same kind of reaction to things we find acceptible today as we do to these nasty racists? They too felt they were justifified.
- eropple 10y ago
  When I'm being aggressive, I will be sure to let you know. I will underline it, if you'd like. I would consider standing by while others threaten to harm people based on their ethnicity to be as immature, as un-adult, a thing as can be done. Giving the playground bullies--and their adult counterparts in the ranks of the literal-not-figurative fascists--room to instill fear and to threaten the oppressed into silence is not what adults do. But it's interesting that you focus on adult rather than decent or just. Edifying, even.

ams6110 10y ago

HN is not the town square. It's perfectly acceptable for there to be boundaries here on subject matter allowed.