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Can you post some examples of these groups' violence? In any of these situations, would less accessible knowledge have changed anything?

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69throwaway69 10y ago
I'm talking about the people who beat those who voted for Trump unconscious, light others on fire, kidnap and torture mentally handicapped conservatives, and stream it online. People who attend and teach courses on how to stop free speech with violence, while encouraging wearing masks to avoid prosecution. People who are convinced that Trump is a Nazi and are willing to commit extreme acts of violence in response to prominent figures calling for white genocide. Each of those Riots costs business owners, city officials/law enforcement, medical staff, and the families of those who have been injured, dollar amounts ranging from 100,000 to 500,000 each. Remember when they did 200,000$ in damage to a single car dealership lot? That's when they had sticks and pepper spray.... I posted on a throwaway, because karma is literally not sustainable, I lost 5 years of karma since September, due to the election shenanigans.. I've already been doxxed and harassed on here for logical dissent from the mainstream, and what do you know, I've already been flagged and shadow-banned, after two comments...(watscheatcodes)
- WaxProlix 10y ago
  Posting under throwaways starts you off looking like you're arguing in bad faith, so it's understandable. I'll be honest, you sound like a bit of an extremist. I've never heard anyone call for "white genocide", in fact the only time I've seen the term used is by neo-nazis; it's kind of a shibboleth. It's hard for me to justify responding rather than just reporting/downvoting and moving on, and that's probably what others are doing, too. So, stick away from hyperbole, use your main account, and maybe in the worst case, accept that your attempts at spin are losing in the marketplace of ideas. There's probably a reason that a lot of people dislike what you have to say, and it isn't necessarily ignorance or identity politics or a preference for white genocide or any of the other alt-right nonsense.
  - 69throwaway69 10y ago
    I up-vote every comment in the tree I comment in, because I usually get collapsed after a few minutes, when it comes to politics. I lost 275 karma in 3 months, and gave up on putting significant effort into posting on things relevant to my career/passions, it's extremely discouraging. This college professor, among many others calls for whatever violence is necessary. He went off, saying do whatever it takes, but do not allow this event to occur, and the conservative speaker cancelled. http://www.redstate.com/uploads/2016/12/white-genocide.jpg http://www.redstate.com/uploads/2016/12/white-genocide.jpg He was the same guy who tweeted, last week, that the man who gave his first class seat to a soldier in uniform almost made him vomit in his seat.. Michael Moore, and many others have published very similar works to the A.C. literal guides on how to be a domestic terrorist, in effort to smother free speech of those who disagree. Somebody from hn, added a handful of my coworkers on linkedin, and subsequently facebook, while they were in a fit of rage, calling me as a fascist and other names, followed by blocking me and everyone they added, a week after the election. Edit: More people will discuss my use of a throwaway, then acknowledge that some of these groups are literally terrifying.
    - youdontknowtho 10y ago
      Gotta admit, it seems like altrighterz would really like to see a rise in violence, and this sounds like a way to justify it to yourselves. After Dick Spencer got hit on camera you guys have been trying to simultaneously make the Antifa people out to be some kind of vanguard of violent liberalism that could turn into terrorism and a group of spoiled college kids that are ineffectual and efite. It's a talking point. I know that you want us to think that and I can see why you would like us to, but Antifa is just not the threat that you say it is and what you are doing is pretty transparent.
      - zo1 10y ago
        A rise in violence is inevitable. The left/right are fundamentally at odds with one another. Once people realize that certain things are not "just the way it is" and accept it, the more they'll see it as violence upon them. Therefore, the logical step after that is retaliation. That is the point where the left/right can no longer co-exist within the same nation. It's like everyone is living in this rosey world, where we accept things that we disagree with for 4 years because "it's just the way it is", and "gee-golly we lost". If you think a policy is wrong/bad/immoral, do something about it, otherwise you don't really think it's bad. The illusion will break at some point, and it will make a lot of people very angry/violent. You can already see it happening now with sanctuary cities, and blatant disregard for basic laws. Certain groups have decided to do something, and we will be seeing a rise in unrest/violence.
backpropaganda 10y ago
Just one of many: https://medium.com/@trentlapinski/the-berkeley-riots-were-a-cowardly-act-of-domestic-terrorism-2bcafbb32ff0 https://medium.com/@trentlapinski/the-berkeley-riots-were-a-...

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69throwaway69 10y ago

I'm talking about the people who beat those who voted for Trump unconscious, light others on fire, kidnap and torture mentally handicapped conservatives, and stream it online. People who attend and teach courses on how to stop free speech with violence, while encouraging wearing masks to avoid prosecution. People who are convinced that Trump is a Nazi and are willing to commit extreme acts of violence in response to prominent figures calling for white genocide. Each of those Riots costs business owners, city officials/law enforcement, medical staff, and the families of those who have been injured, dollar amounts ranging from 100,000 to 500,000 each. Remember when they did 200,000$ in damage to a single car dealership lot? That's when they had sticks and pepper spray.... I posted on a throwaway, because karma is literally not sustainable, I lost 5 years of karma since September, due to the election shenanigans.. I've already been doxxed and harassed on here for logical dissent from the mainstream, and what do you know, I've already been flagged and shadow-banned, after two comments...(watscheatcodes)

WaxProlix 10y ago
Posting under throwaways starts you off looking like you're arguing in bad faith, so it's understandable. I'll be honest, you sound like a bit of an extremist. I've never heard anyone call for "white genocide", in fact the only time I've seen the term used is by neo-nazis; it's kind of a shibboleth. It's hard for me to justify responding rather than just reporting/downvoting and moving on, and that's probably what others are doing, too. So, stick away from hyperbole, use your main account, and maybe in the worst case, accept that your attempts at spin are losing in the marketplace of ideas. There's probably a reason that a lot of people dislike what you have to say, and it isn't necessarily ignorance or identity politics or a preference for white genocide or any of the other alt-right nonsense.
- 69throwaway69 10y ago
  I up-vote every comment in the tree I comment in, because I usually get collapsed after a few minutes, when it comes to politics. I lost 275 karma in 3 months, and gave up on putting significant effort into posting on things relevant to my career/passions, it's extremely discouraging. This college professor, among many others calls for whatever violence is necessary. He went off, saying do whatever it takes, but do not allow this event to occur, and the conservative speaker cancelled. http://www.redstate.com/uploads/2016/12/white-genocide.jpg http://www.redstate.com/uploads/2016/12/white-genocide.jpg He was the same guy who tweeted, last week, that the man who gave his first class seat to a soldier in uniform almost made him vomit in his seat.. Michael Moore, and many others have published very similar works to the A.C. literal guides on how to be a domestic terrorist, in effort to smother free speech of those who disagree. Somebody from hn, added a handful of my coworkers on linkedin, and subsequently facebook, while they were in a fit of rage, calling me as a fascist and other names, followed by blocking me and everyone they added, a week after the election. Edit: More people will discuss my use of a throwaway, then acknowledge that some of these groups are literally terrifying.
  - youdontknowtho 10y ago
    Gotta admit, it seems like altrighterz would really like to see a rise in violence, and this sounds like a way to justify it to yourselves. After Dick Spencer got hit on camera you guys have been trying to simultaneously make the Antifa people out to be some kind of vanguard of violent liberalism that could turn into terrorism and a group of spoiled college kids that are ineffectual and efite. It's a talking point. I know that you want us to think that and I can see why you would like us to, but Antifa is just not the threat that you say it is and what you are doing is pretty transparent.
    - zo1 10y ago
      A rise in violence is inevitable. The left/right are fundamentally at odds with one another. Once people realize that certain things are not "just the way it is" and accept it, the more they'll see it as violence upon them. Therefore, the logical step after that is retaliation. That is the point where the left/right can no longer co-exist within the same nation. It's like everyone is living in this rosey world, where we accept things that we disagree with for 4 years because "it's just the way it is", and "gee-golly we lost". If you think a policy is wrong/bad/immoral, do something about it, otherwise you don't really think it's bad. The illusion will break at some point, and it will make a lot of people very angry/violent. You can already see it happening now with sanctuary cities, and blatant disregard for basic laws. Certain groups have decided to do something, and we will be seeing a rise in unrest/violence.

backpropaganda 10y ago

Just one of many: https://medium.com/@trentlapinski/the-berkeley-riots-were-a-cowardly-act-of-domestic-terrorism-2bcafbb32ff0 https://medium.com/@trentlapinski/the-berkeley-riots-were-a-...