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I personally think that there's a new way. On Kickstarter, Arrowstorm Entertainment regularly launches new campaigns for movies. One of the more succesful ones

by bartvk 10y ago

I personally think that there's a new way. On Kickstarter, Arrowstorm Entertainment regularly launches new campaigns for movies. One of the more succesful ones is a fantasy movie series called Mythica, already at part 5: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/arrowstorm/mythica-5-the-godslayer https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/arrowstorm/mythica-5-th... One of the more recent ones is 626 Evolution, a science fiction movie: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/arrowstorm/626-evolution-scifi-feature https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/arrowstorm/626-evolutio... These are low budget movies aimed at a specific crowd. You join in for $15 or more. I love them.

petra 10y ago
The first 2 films in this series recruited about $80K. How is that enough for producing a movie ? does anybody know how their business model works?
- Joeboy 10y ago
  In general when features get made for that kind of money, it means the production values are low and everybody is working for nothing or low rates in the hope it'll help them get paid work in future. It's shockingly easy to find film crew who'll work for free.
  - laughfactory 10y ago
    This is true. And also because there's nothing quite like working on a movie. Some of my fondest memories are of working on various film and TV shows in a wide variety of capacities.
- anigbrowl 10y ago
  You can make a feature very cheap but it's difficult to make a profit on it, plus there's a big trade-off between the quality of work you get if you pay or not. Film people help each other out for free frequently cause they're artists, but sadly the model for micro- and no-budget films has shrunk by about half over the last 15 years, so it's very difficult to make a living on small projects compared to even a decade ago.
  - petra 10y ago
    The production values are quite good,at least according to promos , that's what's surprising about this.
    - anigbrowl 10y ago
      It's absolutely doable on a small budget. The tricky part is bootstrapping that to get to a higher budget. When you produce a great product at a low budget there's some pressure to promote the cheapness/economy angle as a selling point. But as you go for a higher level of quality, whether technical or aesthetic, the costs don't scale linearly with the budget. So above a certain budget you might come under pressure to sign industry agreements on guild membership or labor contracts in order to be able to hire the people you want, so the financial calculus changes.
Keyframe 10y ago
I'll believe it when someone raises a realistic budget, on a regular basis. For TV episodes that's $2-3 million per episode and two to three times as much for a pilot and for a 'low budget' movie it's $20 million. Ultra low budget and indies aren't what we're talking about though. Same with games - I can't remember, but wasn't Star Citizen only one that raised enough funds to be considered AAA? It's a different business model too. TV and Film business is vastly complicated area.

by bartvk 10y ago

petra 10y ago

The first 2 films in this series recruited about $80K. How is that enough for producing a movie ? does anybody know how their business model works?

Joeboy 10y ago
In general when features get made for that kind of money, it means the production values are low and everybody is working for nothing or low rates in the hope it'll help them get paid work in future. It's shockingly easy to find film crew who'll work for free.
- laughfactory 10y ago
  This is true. And also because there's nothing quite like working on a movie. Some of my fondest memories are of working on various film and TV shows in a wide variety of capacities.
anigbrowl 10y ago
You can make a feature very cheap but it's difficult to make a profit on it, plus there's a big trade-off between the quality of work you get if you pay or not. Film people help each other out for free frequently cause they're artists, but sadly the model for micro- and no-budget films has shrunk by about half over the last 15 years, so it's very difficult to make a living on small projects compared to even a decade ago.
- petra 10y ago
  The production values are quite good,at least according to promos , that's what's surprising about this.
  - anigbrowl 10y ago
    It's absolutely doable on a small budget. The tricky part is bootstrapping that to get to a higher budget. When you produce a great product at a low budget there's some pressure to promote the cheapness/economy angle as a selling point. But as you go for a higher level of quality, whether technical or aesthetic, the costs don't scale linearly with the budget. So above a certain budget you might come under pressure to sign industry agreements on guild membership or labor contracts in order to be able to hire the people you want, so the financial calculus changes.

Keyframe 10y ago

I'll believe it when someone raises a realistic budget, on a regular basis. For TV episodes that's $2-3 million per episode and two to three times as much for a pilot and for a 'low budget' movie it's $20 million. Ultra low budget and indies aren't what we're talking about though. Same with games - I can't remember, but wasn't Star Citizen only one that raised enough funds to be considered AAA? It's a different business model too. TV and Film business is vastly complicated area.