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> This is true, but the person filling your order does have a responsibility to ensure that your order is filled at the lit exchange price or better. If you fin
by jcfrei 10y ago
> This is true, but the person filling your order does have a responsibility to ensure that your order is filled at the lit exchange price or better. If you find contrary evidence,the regulators would possibly be willing to pay you a lot of money for it.
I'm still struggling with your definition of a lit exchange price. Are you referring to the NBBO? The price you get largely depends on the order size, so the NBBO only applies up to a certain order size. Also the NBBO might not even be up-to-date.
Regarding regulation: "In deciding how to execute orders, your broker has a duty to seek the best execution that is reasonably available for its customers' orders" - usually this means you should have a better or same price as the NBBO - up to a certain order size. If you are happy with the NBBO then you are right and I wouldn't worry too much - however if I recall correctly the NBBO is usually pretty wide and has plenty of other caveats (eg: http://www.nanex.net/Research/IsNBBOIgnored.html http://www.nanex.net/Research/IsNBBOIgnored.html).
> According to your Schwab link, if there is no fill improvement on Robinhood then you are better off using Robinhood for orders under 500 shares because commissions are $4.95 and the fill improvement is less than that. Is that your interpretation as well?
Do you mean price improvement? I seen no mentioning of fill improvement on the Schwab link. But yep, seems about right.
> Do you have a link showing that Robinhood customers do not get any fill improvement?
> I don't think the KCG link is relevant as they do not have retail customers.
Robinhood lists KCG, Citadel and Two Sigmas as their market centers - so that's the best information I could find regarding price improvement for Robinhood customers.
- vostok 10y ago> If you are happy with the NBBO then you are right and I wouldn't worry too much - however if I recall correctly the NBBO is usually pretty wide You still haven't shown evidence that price improvement is worse on Robinhood than on Schwab by an amount that exceeds Schwab's commissions. We both agree that for under 500 shares ($15,000 on a $30 stock) Robinhood is better even if there is 0 price improvement. I've already explained in my previous response why you can't compare the KCG statistics to the Schwab statistics. I will repeat it again and rephrase it in case I was unclear. KCG does not have retail customers so their price improvement statistics are not comparable to Schwab's price improvement statistics. Retail customers get more price improvement because their flow is less toxic than institutional flow. > Robinhood lists KCG, Citadel and Two Sigmas as their market centers. I'm not really sure what this is referring to. Schwab routes to UBS, Citadel, KCG, G1X, and Two Sigma.