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FBI releases 25 previously unseen photos from 9/11 attack at Pentagon
- savethefuture 10y agoAll that jet fuel must have just melted the entire plane except a couple pieces, and luckily the serial number survived. Strange.
- ultimatejs 10y agoThe ONE piece of metal with the serial number on it, and the ONE piece of metal that clearly has part of an American Airlines logo on it (and the partially ruined american flag stuck in the debris) all remind me of that Dave Chapelle sketch where the cops "sprinkle crack" on the suspect they framed. The one outlier is the Hitachi tractor rather than a John Deere one. Merica, land of false flags and wrongful world domination!
- sanswork 10y agoThat isn't the one piece of metal left, there are literally other photos of parts in the collection. That is just one piece of metal that they happened to post a photograph of.
- clamprecht 10y agoI suspect the serial number is attached to multiple locations of the airplane.
- vesrah 10y agoPart numbers of every piece of a plane are required to be able to be traced back.
- savethefuture 10y agoI'm sure it was, I just found it strange there are no pictures of larger parts of the plane like the engines or wings or rest of the fuselage but we can identify which plane it was. Obviously others didn't like that comment.
- ska 10y agoNot strange at all if you know anything about how systems like this are designed, built, tested, QA'd, shipped, monitored, & supported in the field. I suppose it could look strange to a naive viewer, but their rational response would be "Gee, I really don't know much about this, where can I learn?", not "Gee, I bet something shady is going on!".
- ceejayoz 10y agohttp://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions
- splawn 10y agolmao. This was a good read, "JAQing off" is now permanently added to my arsenal.
- HalfwayToDice 10y agoThere are pictures of the engines. Oh no, I replied to a conspiracy theorist. I should go to bed.
- savethefuture 10y agoCase closed, pictures of the engines exists. You should go to bed, please.
- ultimatejs 10y agoExactly, they might as well just put the whole damn plane stuck right there clearly visible--it wouldn't change a thing. It all could have been a real terrorist attack--all that matters is our disproportionate response ("shock and awe") on an unrelated country to know America and the powers that be have done some horrible egregious things and don't represent the thinking of the people had they not been brainwashed by propaganda. Had the mainstream media been toting a forgive and forget peace party line rather than war mongering propaganda, nobody would want war.
- ceejayoz 10y agoThere will be many, many parts with individual serial numbers in an average airliner.
- esaym 10y agoPrevious aircraft mechanic here. Everything on a plane has a serial number except for the most basic commodity parts. For all I know, that could be the toilet paper holder.
- pier25 10y agoIt still doesn't look like a plane crashed there
- ceejayoz 10y agoSure it does. Here's what the Concorde crash site looked like: http://www.concordesst.com/accident/englishreport/images/vueaerienprincipauxelements.jpg http://www.concordesst.com/accident/englishreport/images/vue... Germanwings 9525: http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150324150543-25b-plane-crash-0324-restricted-super-169.jpg http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150324150543-25b-pl... MH370: https://static.pexels.com/photos/6644/sea-water-ocean-waves.jpg https://static.pexels.com/photos/6644/sea-water-ocean-waves....
- theptip 10y ago> MH370 Well played.
- HenryBemis 10y agoI will probably go to hell for this, but regarding the MH370 photo: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! In all seriousness now, I believe it is a terrible, horrible thing to have lost a loved one on that flight and be in agony of what happened to them and spend months/years without an answer.. no one should have to endure this :(
- nkrisc 10y agoImagine if every investigation simply ended with what it "looked" like. "Well the victim was known to be connected to organized crime, and was going to testify tomorrow, but it looks like he simply fell down the stairs. Oh well."
- pier25 10y agoI don't know what happened and I can only make conclusions based on the data I have access to.
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- ultimatejs 10y agowhere's the plane?
- sanswork 10y agoYou're honestly expecting an aluminum can the be intact after it smashes into a reenforced building at a few hundred miles per hour? The plane is there, this group of pictures includes pictures of it. There just isn't much left.
- ultimatejs 10y agoYou'd see way more evidence than what they have provided. There is basically no video footage of the plane hitting the pentagon. That's very strange considering the building is stacked full of cameras--or so you would assume. That building wasn't hit by a plane. At the very least we would have crystal clear videos of it happening. What I think it was is this: the false flag planners got a little overzealous and didn't pull the Pentagon attack off as well (no proper videos, planes in plain plain sight) so they have resolved to downplaying it. Now they're back showing photos to convince people that need very little evidence to believe something. You can just tell by the way they have 2 photos of a serial number and an american airlines logo. Of course it could be real, but don't tell me you can't imagine top players saying: "Make sure you put these clearly branded items in a few photos." If a plane really hit, what I expect to see is a all the plain parts that are there put back together in a chalk layout like a murder scene. I expect to see piles and piles of those pieces of metal with serial numbers on it. The problem can only be that they just don't have it. And not cuz every single piece but precisely one with a serial number on it was destroyed. If they have a piece with a serial number on it, that means they should have 100 pieces of the same metal type without the serial number on it.
- sanswork 10y agoWhy would they release that video? What would they have to gain other than giving away the locations of their security cameras? Why would you expect crystal clear videos of it happening? https://nokiamuseum.info/category/launching-year/2001/ https://nokiamuseum.info/category/launching-year/2001/ There is an example of the types of phones around in 2001. So we're not going to have third party video. We're going to have shitty thirdparty security cameras(which we received footage from) or the pentagons own security cameras which they aren't going to release the footage from. You're also ignoring all the eye witnesses.
- ultimatejs 10y agoblack box?
- unabridged 10y agoIts been 16 years, why can't they release everything. I am sure they have video of the plane hitting from multiple angles.
- sanswork 10y agoSame reason a casino won't tell you if they caught the person picking your pocket on camera. You don't want to release where you have your secret security cameras when it will do nothing to help solve the crime. All releasing the video would do would be attempt to quell the doubts of conspiracy theorists who would immediately claim it was a jet dressed up like a plane or CGI anyhow since they don't want the truth since the truth is generally mundane.
- unabridged 10y ago>Same reason a casino won't tell you if they caught the person picking your pocket on camera. You don't want to release where you have your secret security cameras when it will do nothing to help solve the crime. I get it, but is it really a national security secret that the pentagon is surrounded by cameras.
- sanswork 10y agoNot that it is but where they are and yes.
- r00fus 10y agoToo many then-important people still in power?
- thinkmilitant 10y agoNo video would convince the conspiracy theorists. There would just be a fresh round of claims it was Photoshopped or filmed on a set or something. Now that doesn't adequately explain why they don't go ahead and release it anyways, but it's still worth noting, imo.
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- tekism 10y agoI didn't know this was a thing, people are denying an airplane hit the pentagon?? Wasn't there a video?
- nthitz 10y ago~No video has been released to the public.~ edit: Apologies, I was incorrect.
- ceejayoz 10y agoThat's demonstrably false. There's video, although a 600mph plane doesn't show up for long in a security camera angle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaPoD_7TmNc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaPoD_7TmNc
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- mikeash 10y agoThere's no video. It's strange how different things were for photos and videos a mere 15.5 years ago. If it happened today, you'd have sixteen bazillion videos from everybody's phones. There are, however, a ton of witnesses. I think a lot of deniers don't really grasp the geography and think the Pentagon is some distant, isolated military installation or something. In reality, it's smack in the middle of the sixth largest metro area in the country, and AA77 flew right over a busy highway on its way to the Pentagon, so low that it knocked over light poles and nearly impaled a hapless taxi driver who was almost in the wrong place at the wrong time.
- eternalban 10y agoWTC FOIA videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/WTCFOIAVideos/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/WTCFOIAVideos/videos p.s. this set seems to be quite comprehensive: https://www.youtube.com/user/relapsed1/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/relapsed1/videos
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