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You're creating an unexessarily complex system. If you look at * chans, all of this is naturally handled by the system itself; how willing people are to actuall
by setr 10y ago
You're creating an unexessarily complex system. If you look at * chans, all of this is naturally handled by the system itself; how willing people are to actually respond to the post. It's only really insufficient against particularly malicious actors, like shills and bots.
Willingness to converse is the prinary metric; upvotes fuck with that by also pushing the orthogonal metric of how much people like the post itself (regardless of how worthy of response it is).
And ofc, you're trying to tack on like 6 more orthogonal metrics. But whats wrong with letting people vote with their feet?
- Klathmon 10y agoWell I disagree. I don't comment unless I have something to add. In a chan style system I'm completely ignored unless I comment with bullshit like "I agree". Not to mention that it encourages controversial content as it generates more arguing (read discussion). It's just not a system that I believe works well, especially with threaded content like on HN or Reddit.
- setr 10y ago>In a chan style system I'm completely ignored unless I comment with bullshit like "I agree". You're completely ignored, but only in the sense that people skim your post... since the posts all live on the same plane, the comment must still be skimmed over (in order of time). But its not the system, or some subset of users ignoring you (by hiding your post automatically, by downvotes or a lack of upvotes)... it's the users choosing, individually, to ignore you. And AFAICT, upvote-based systems have a higher tendency to post bullshit, in the form of trivially community-acceptable statements, or simple nonsense like "I agree". However, I'm also of the opinion that most interesting comments on both types of systems are arguements and refutations (by knowledgeable people), info dumps (by knowledgeable people), or histories (by experienced people). The latter two are supported by upvotes, but the goal of upvotes is to utterly extinguish the former.