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Gulf Oil Spill Solution -- a YC Collaborative solution
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I think YCombinator provides a near optimal interface for discussion if you use it right. Let's try to use it for something constructive.
I was reading about the current Oil Spill crisis, and noticed that Google's special discussion page was shut down even though the problem isn't solved! (http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=68c8&t=68c8.41) In fact, recent news states that all plans so far have failed, and we're reverting to an older solution (that didn't work). Any developer knows what that means -- we're really in the gutter now.
Call me naive and hopeful, but I think YCombinator forum's superior simple interface w/ the creative minds here can help solve this crisis. To help with the Oil Spill crisis with constructive discourse, just follow the special rules below when posting. The reason for all these rules is to collaboratively hack the hacker-news system to work like a collaboration system.
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- jaekwon 16y agoMedia, News, Resources
- jaekwon 16y agoNews http://gulfoilspill.blogspot.com/ http://gulfoilspill.blogspot.com/
- jaekwon 16y ago1. Google endorsed "Crisis Response" page http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/oilspill/ http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/oilspill/ 2. Google Moderator for the oil spill http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=68c8&t=68c8.41 http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=68c8&t=68c8.41
- uptown 16y agoInfo-graphics of the attempted containment methods: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/25/us/20100525-topkill-diagram.html?ref=us http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/25/us/20100525-to...
- jaekwon 16y agoPotential / Partial Solutions
- jaekwon 16y agoStop using Corexit and chemical dispersants. 1. Dispersants to "treat" spills in the ocean is unprecedented 2. The EPA / scientists are concerned about long term environmental effects 3. Even the CEO of Nalco doesn't endorse this strategy, while the company is still selling Corexit Sources 1. http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/05/28/28greenwire-we-have-nothing-to-hide-oil-dispersant-maker-s-42602.html http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/05/28/28greenwire-we-have-... 2. http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x539709 http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.p...
- jaekwon 16y agoProvide incentives for BP to use their tanker ships to collect oil that rises to the top instead of letting them be used for profit. (To do otherwise is to let BP pay their way out of the problem when they could fix the underlying issue.) 1. Come up with a fair method of dividing the environmental costs (US) and the opportunity costs (BP). 2. Make it clear via a speedy minimal bill in the senate that BP will be charged for the full environmental costs including cleanup. Questions 1. Where are BP's closest tankers and what are they doing?
- jaekwon 16y agoLet reporters report the situation if they have proper gear and they understand the risks to tap into the power of the internet and world thinkers. Pass a bill to make the current state of censorship illegal.
- uptown 16y agoIt seems like a lot of the "capping" methods are trying to contain the oil output using a single cap .... made impossible due to the pressure of the output. Could a series of stacked metal "cones", with holes in the top, each one slightly more narrow than the previous one, work better? Each cone would slightly reduce the output diameter, reducing the flow ... and the additional weight of each cone would help hold down the cones on the bottom.
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- jaekwon 16y agoTechnical / Physical Questions
- jaekwon 16y agoSpecifically in the case of the Gulf, why is there so much pressure in the reserves?