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A few counter points: - Manufacturing in general in the developed world is in serious trouble. I'm not sure anything could really reverse that; - I agree abou
by cletus 10y ago
A few counter points:
- Manufacturing in general in the developed world is in serious trouble. I'm not sure anything could really reverse that;
- I agree about having a sovereign wealth fund. Norway has this. It's such a lost opportunity by pretty much everyone else that allows the looting of natural resources by a wealthy few.
- As for fiscal responsibility, I think your view of the Howard era is somewhat slanted. The spike in resources prices didn't really begin until the mid 2000s [1], the latter days of the Howard government. I tend to largely ignore the Sydney Morning Herald when it comes to criticism of conservatives. It comes off as anything but impartial.
There were definitely attempts at buying votes in the last Howard term but most of the rest was tax reform, paying down debt [2], using asset sales to fund superannuation obligations (ie the Future Fund).
- There was definitely a problem with how the slices of the GST pie were calculated. Western Australia and to a lesser extend Queensland really got the shaft on this one. As resource prices receded, WA is now down to retaining something like 34 cents of every GST dollar collected.
- There was a somewhat complicated system for CGT inflation indexation. This was "reformed" to being a straight gain that was discounted by 50% if held for over a year. Son in the medium term, the effective rate is lower but I'm not sure this leads to the result you claim.
For one thing, flipping properties isn't really a thing in Australia largely due to stamp duty levied by the states (something the GST was meant to replace I might add, which the states largely reneged on).
At the height of the property boom (mid 2000s) it was probably the case that prices were rising so fast that even paying stamp duty it was possible to make a lot of money by holding property only for 1-3 years but this is exceptional. More to the point, I don't think the CGT changes were the cause.
Property prices in the Australia largely stagnated since the recession we had to have (1991). In Perth, for example, it was possible in 2000 to buy a 1970s 3 bedroom house 8 miles from the CBD for <$100k and this hadn't changed in years.
So partly this changed because the market was (still) oversold.
Another factor: the mining boom. Capital projects soaked up a huge amount of supply. The cost of construction in Australia massively increased as a result. This inflation was (IMHO) largely responsible for the 2000s price boom. 20 years ago it was possible to build a house for $100k in 3 months. Now? It's more like $350k and it takes a year.
- As for recent price booms in places like Sydney and Melbourne, this is part of a global trend where foreign money is driving up prices in urban centers in the developed world. I'm not sure immigration has much to do with anything here.
[1] http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=iron-ore&months=360 http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=iron-ore&mo...
[2] http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/government-debt-to-gdp http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/government-debt-to...
- spangry 10y agoI think many of your points have merit, although there are a few I disagree with. I think you're right about the construction input costs: the 'initial phase' of any mining boom is characterised by lots of capital investment and the construction projects that go with it. So that definitely did bid up the cost of construction project inputs, and also contributed to a (transient) increase in employment and wages in the industry. Unfortunately, mining is a very capital intensive activity. So now that the capital projects are done and we're transitioning to the 'volume production phase', the effect on employment, wages and costs of construction inputs are receding. And it sounds like we're in agreement on the national interest re: finite resource extraction. Thank goodness we had the foresight to tax some of the rents derived from the extraction of our finite natural resources... no wait... As for hollowing out of manufacturing, it's definitely a debatable point and I think reasonable people can arrive at different views on this one. Honestly, it's a difficult proposition to prove in either direction. I guess I'm saying I don't have very strong views here, other than we didn't exactly take many (or really any) prudent actions here. As an interesting aside, multi-factor productivity should naturally rise (particularly now that world commodity prices have come back down a bit, so its no longer profitable to extract marginal deposits). I'm sure whoever happens to be in government at the time will figure out a way to claim the credit. I can't fault you for ignoring SMH when searching for truthful information. Frankly, anything that comes out of Fairfax (even the AFR) these days is highly suspect. Around 80% of Fairfax's revenues come from Domain property advertising, making SMH the most widely read real-estate agent newsletter in the country. But the IMF study is solid, and I can't see any reason why they'd have a bias one way or the other (especially since Australia was just 1 of about 200 countries studied). If you have a critique of that study, I'd be interested to hear it. Otherwise I stand by my assertion about the structural deficit. GST distribution is a bit of a vexed issue (some of which is too complicated to go into here, but is comprehensively discussed here: http://gstdistributionreview.gov.au http://gstdistributionreview.gov.au ). The EU is an example of a monetary union without a system of horizontal fiscal equalisation. Hasn't worked out that great for some of their members who have had a 'slower' economy than the average EU member, but nonetheless faced a non-stimulatory central bank cash rate (e.g. Greece). On the other hand, it seems to have worked out pretty good for members like Germany. WA also seems to have a curiously short memory on this issue. Commonwealth to State fiscal transfers have been going on since federation (as opposed to since the introduction of the GST). I'm pretty sure that, even though recently they've been getting a 'raw deal', on a per capita basis over the life of the Australian federation WA has actually been a net recipient state. Certainly over the past 30 years or so this has been the case (see: https://www.cgc.gov.au/index.php?option=com_docman&view=download&alias=939-fiscal-equalisation-relativities-used-for-distribution-of-general-revenue-payments-to-states-xlsx&category_slug=history&Itemid=292 https://www.cgc.gov.au/index.php?option=com_docman&view=down...), where WA has been a net recipient in ~53% of the years since 1981. I suppose they can pay the other States back, if they really feel that strongly about it... As for stamp duty, in fairness to the States, removal was part of the original inter-governmental agreement but was removed after the GST tax base got smaller (thanks to the Democrats, who only passed the GST legislation after negotiating with Howard to exclude certain goods and services from the consumption tax base, reducing the efficiency of the tax in the process). Although they might have had good intentions, there are more efficient ways to offset the regressive effects of a broad-based consumption tax (e.g. reduce low income earner income tax, increase 'hardship' transfer payment amounts etc.). Whether things like the Future Fund were paid for from the 'rivers of gold' (i.e. general tax revenue) or asset sales is really neither here nor there since it's all just 'one big bucket' from government's perspective. There are only a few situations where it might make sense to hypothecate revenue to a particular expenditure (note: the medicare levy is not one of these; the revenue from this additional income tax just goes in to the 'big bucket'). At a basic level, it only makes sense to sell an asset if you can earn a higher rate of return on the proceeds. It gets a bit more complicated when talking in the context of government, as 'rate of return' should factor in things like public/consumer welfare (i.e. it's usually a bad idea for governments to privatise natural monopolies like Telstra, as the subsequent monopolist price gouging effectively functions as an inefficient tax). The fact still remains that they squandered an enormous but temporary increase in government revenues on permanent middle-class welfare outlays and tax reductions. And I agree with you on the influence of foreign money (hell, let's come right out and say it: Chinese money). Canada appear to have had similar issues. And the Commonwealth has been outright negligent in enforcing its own laws regarding foreign purchase of residential real estate. And FIRB are goddamn useless to the point where one has to wonder if it's incompetence, or incompetence like a fox... As for the effect of tax policy on house prices, they appear to have shot up right around here: http://i.imgur.com/4VUGfPz.png http://i.imgur.com/4VUGfPz.png