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If you're suspicious of Sandy Hook then I suggest watching this lecture by Sofia Smallstorm here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJYQihoNNuQ https://www.youtu

If you're suspicious of Sandy Hook then I suggest watching this lecture by Sofia Smallstorm here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJYQihoNNuQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJYQihoNNuQ The inescapable conclusion for any reasonable person when presented with all the facts is that the whole thing was staged. Is that outrageous? Does sharing this make me a lunatic conspiracy theorist? Not really. It just means the US mainstream media isn't doing its job.

FiatLuxDave 10y ago
I'm the last person to say that the US mainstream media is doing a good job. That said, I see you've been on HN long enough to not be surprised that all kinds of people can be found on here. It turns out that at least one person here was a personal friend of one of the Sandy Hook parents back in high school. Who played D&D with him, talked about Commodore computers with him, and who remembers when his roommate got mad and put peanut butter in his floppy drive. It's bad enough that my old DM lost his child in a senseless tragedy. But when people try to insist that his greatest pain was all a hoax, that the child he lost maybe didn't even exist, that's just beyond the pale. Maybe it's easier for me to have all the facts because I know people affected. But thousands of people know these families - have you considered talking to someone who knows them? No matter how bad the media is, some stories are about real people, who can hurt. Please consider that when you spread bullshit online.
- alikoneko 10y ago
  A tenured professor at the university I attended was fired for continuously harassing Sandy Hook families for death certificates of their children. It was a terrible cry for attention for his blog. I'm not capable of doing the mental gymnastics that makes his actions okay.
- camperman 10y ago
  > That said, I see you've been on HN long enough to not be surprised that all kinds of people can be found on here. Well, quite. For example, I am a coder, an investigative journalist and a digital forensics consultant with a scarily good track record over the last 25 years even if I do say so myself. > It's bad enough that my old DM lost his child in a senseless tragedy. But when people try to insist that his greatest pain was all a hoax, that the child he lost maybe didn't even exist, that's just beyond the pale. Maybe it's easier for me to have all the facts because I know people affected. You have some facts? Great. What are they? Because so far you haven't given me any, just a second-hand sob story which may or may not be true. What's this guy's name? Where can I check out his details? Does he even exist? Because there isn't a single scrap of evidence to prove that Adam Lanza even existed, just for starters, let alone how this 120 pound kid with development problems managed to carry such a heavy arsenal into the school and kill so many people in under a minute. Where are the crime scene photos? Just one will do. Why isn't there any video or camera evidence of the shooter? Who cleaned up the blood? There are strict federal laws governing that. Not a single photo of a body. Not the shooter. Not his mother. Not one child. Not one teacher. Nothing. All kids were ruled dead at the scene. Which if you've ever talked to an EMT you never rule a person dead at the scene unless they've been decapitated. You can get shot in the head and a doctor can revive you. But no, everyone was ruled dead at the scene and there are no pictures of any blood, bodies, shell casings, anything. > No matter how bad the media is, some stories are about real people, who can hurt. Please consider that when you spread bullshit online. Yeah I'm deeply moved. Not.
  - FiatLuxDave 10y ago
    I don't know what they teach investigative journalists, but showing that you are deeply unsympathetic to how harassment affects victims' families does not tend to get people to reveal information to you. And who asks for private information on a public forum? The web hasn't killed email yet. I don't know the answer to most of your questions. I have purposely avoided most information about the shooting. All I know is that one of the victims was a real person. May you fare well in finding the truth.
tomjen3 10y ago
If the CIA or anybody else for that matter wanted to stage a mass murder like Sandy Hook, for the purposes of gun control or something like that, it would be infinitely easier to make sure a bunch of maniacs have access to guns and feed them LSD or a drug with similar effects and wait until they act, rather than create a fake school, community, parents etc. Just remember the CIA/NSA is evil, they don't care if they have to kill a few children.

FiatLuxDave 10y ago

I'm the last person to say that the US mainstream media is doing a good job. That said, I see you've been on HN long enough to not be surprised that all kinds of people can be found on here. It turns out that at least one person here was a personal friend of one of the Sandy Hook parents back in high school. Who played D&D with him, talked about Commodore computers with him, and who remembers when his roommate got mad and put peanut butter in his floppy drive. It's bad enough that my old DM lost his child in a senseless tragedy. But when people try to insist that his greatest pain was all a hoax, that the child he lost maybe didn't even exist, that's just beyond the pale. Maybe it's easier for me to have all the facts because I know people affected. But thousands of people know these families - have you considered talking to someone who knows them? No matter how bad the media is, some stories are about real people, who can hurt. Please consider that when you spread bullshit online.

alikoneko 10y ago
A tenured professor at the university I attended was fired for continuously harassing Sandy Hook families for death certificates of their children. It was a terrible cry for attention for his blog. I'm not capable of doing the mental gymnastics that makes his actions okay.
camperman 10y ago
> That said, I see you've been on HN long enough to not be surprised that all kinds of people can be found on here. Well, quite. For example, I am a coder, an investigative journalist and a digital forensics consultant with a scarily good track record over the last 25 years even if I do say so myself. > It's bad enough that my old DM lost his child in a senseless tragedy. But when people try to insist that his greatest pain was all a hoax, that the child he lost maybe didn't even exist, that's just beyond the pale. Maybe it's easier for me to have all the facts because I know people affected. You have some facts? Great. What are they? Because so far you haven't given me any, just a second-hand sob story which may or may not be true. What's this guy's name? Where can I check out his details? Does he even exist? Because there isn't a single scrap of evidence to prove that Adam Lanza even existed, just for starters, let alone how this 120 pound kid with development problems managed to carry such a heavy arsenal into the school and kill so many people in under a minute. Where are the crime scene photos? Just one will do. Why isn't there any video or camera evidence of the shooter? Who cleaned up the blood? There are strict federal laws governing that. Not a single photo of a body. Not the shooter. Not his mother. Not one child. Not one teacher. Nothing. All kids were ruled dead at the scene. Which if you've ever talked to an EMT you never rule a person dead at the scene unless they've been decapitated. You can get shot in the head and a doctor can revive you. But no, everyone was ruled dead at the scene and there are no pictures of any blood, bodies, shell casings, anything. > No matter how bad the media is, some stories are about real people, who can hurt. Please consider that when you spread bullshit online. Yeah I'm deeply moved. Not.
- FiatLuxDave 10y ago
  I don't know what they teach investigative journalists, but showing that you are deeply unsympathetic to how harassment affects victims' families does not tend to get people to reveal information to you. And who asks for private information on a public forum? The web hasn't killed email yet. I don't know the answer to most of your questions. I have purposely avoided most information about the shooting. All I know is that one of the victims was a real person. May you fare well in finding the truth.

tomjen3 10y ago

If the CIA or anybody else for that matter wanted to stage a mass murder like Sandy Hook, for the purposes of gun control or something like that, it would be infinitely easier to make sure a bunch of maniacs have access to guns and feed them LSD or a drug with similar effects and wait until they act, rather than create a fake school, community, parents etc. Just remember the CIA/NSA is evil, they don't care if they have to kill a few children.