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Isn't the obvious solution to ban personal phones, or personal apps, at work? It's not hard.

lostlogin 10y ago
There is plenty of confidential information that is sensitive for more than a day.
kchoudhu 10y ago
No cell phones on trading floors at Goldman, if I recall. Nothing stopping people from chatting on Whatsapp after hours though; plenty of stuff stays sensitive after the close of business.
throwaway287391 10y ago
Do you honestly think that's a feasible solution? Who in their right mind would work for a company that doesn't allow them to bring their personal phone to work? Unless it were required by law, no company would do that to their white collar employees -- they'd all leave for a company that doesn't treat them like eight year olds. (I feel like this would never be suggested on HN if we were discussing software companies rather than finance.)
- tedsanders 10y ago
  Many companies with highly confidential information do this. A friend of mine is a programmer at such a company.
- cm2187 10y ago
  Mobile phones are banned on trading floors. It is just hard to enforce for the reasons you mention.
  - billpg 10y ago
    They still have trading floors? I thought all trades went electronically these days.
    - cm2187 10y ago
      Only on some very specific and liquid products (shares, FX, futures, perhaps certain bonds). Most products still trade over the counter (i.e. by phone).
  - GenWintergreen 10y ago
    It's kinda a soft ban though, and hard for any MD to enforce when they're the most guilty of it.
- ForHackernews 10y ago
  The finance industry already has much more onerous security requirements than most software companies. One reason I wouldn't want to work for a financial firm is that they'd never let me have root on my own desktop, or install whatever software I wanted. The workers put up with it because finance pays gobs and gobs of money. Would you leave your personal phone at home for the right price? I'm sure you [or somebody else equivalently talented to you] would.
- codedokode 10y ago
  That could also make employees more productive.
  - ci5er 10y ago
    Could?
- lz400 10y ago
  It's done regularly in trading floors
- na85 10y ago
  >Who in their right mind would work for a company that doesn't allow them to bring their personal phone to work? Uh, everyone in the military and the defense industry who work in EMSEC zones? Literally hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions.
- 72deluxe 10y ago
  I have zero signal at work due to the building being a huge metal frame and metal mesh on the windows. This means I cannot SMS anyone. It also means increased productivity as I don't bother looking at my phone to see if anyone has texted me. I can get WiFi at work and use Internet IM/communication apps but in all seriousness, I am there to work and putting my phone in my pocket on airplane mode is actually far more beneficial than you think.

There is plenty of confidential information that is sensitive for more than a day.

No cell phones on trading floors at Goldman, if I recall. Nothing stopping people from chatting on Whatsapp after hours though; plenty of stuff stays sensitive after the close of business.

throwaway287391 10y ago

Do you honestly think that's a feasible solution? Who in their right mind would work for a company that doesn't allow them to bring their personal phone to work? Unless it were required by law, no company would do that to their white collar employees -- they'd all leave for a company that doesn't treat them like eight year olds. (I feel like this would never be suggested on HN if we were discussing software companies rather than finance.)

tedsanders 10y ago
Many companies with highly confidential information do this. A friend of mine is a programmer at such a company.
cm2187 10y ago
Mobile phones are banned on trading floors. It is just hard to enforce for the reasons you mention.
- billpg 10y ago
  They still have trading floors? I thought all trades went electronically these days.
  - cm2187 10y ago
    Only on some very specific and liquid products (shares, FX, futures, perhaps certain bonds). Most products still trade over the counter (i.e. by phone).
- GenWintergreen 10y ago
  It's kinda a soft ban though, and hard for any MD to enforce when they're the most guilty of it.
ForHackernews 10y ago
The finance industry already has much more onerous security requirements than most software companies. One reason I wouldn't want to work for a financial firm is that they'd never let me have root on my own desktop, or install whatever software I wanted. The workers put up with it because finance pays gobs and gobs of money. Would you leave your personal phone at home for the right price? I'm sure you [or somebody else equivalently talented to you] would.
codedokode 10y ago
That could also make employees more productive.
- ci5er 10y ago
  Could?
lz400 10y ago
It's done regularly in trading floors
na85 10y ago
>Who in their right mind would work for a company that doesn't allow them to bring their personal phone to work? Uh, everyone in the military and the defense industry who work in EMSEC zones? Literally hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions.
72deluxe 10y ago
I have zero signal at work due to the building being a huge metal frame and metal mesh on the windows. This means I cannot SMS anyone. It also means increased productivity as I don't bother looking at my phone to see if anyone has texted me. I can get WiFi at work and use Internet IM/communication apps but in all seriousness, I am there to work and putting my phone in my pocket on airplane mode is actually far more beneficial than you think.