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The two sides on political spectrum define "fake news" differently: one calls everything that's not reported by the established (and very well paid) media "fake

The two sides on political spectrum define "fake news" differently: one calls everything that's not reported by the established (and very well paid) media "fake news", the other one calls news that uses cherry picked facts to push the narrative "fake news."

ihsw2 10y ago
Do either of them qualify as fake news? How do we combat fake news if nobody knows what it is, and how do we prevent collateral damage/unintended consequences?
- Razengan 10y ago
  Fake == not real. Fake news == reporting stuff that did not happen, isn't true.
  - BearGoesChirp 10y ago
    What about reporting on real facts in a way that leads one to draw a false conclusion? Imagine if Fox News ran a story on race and crime and used lots of FBI facts, never drawing any actual conclusion, but pointing out how crimes break down racially while never mentioning the possibility that profiling or the interactions between race and poverty or poverty and crime? All the reporting would be on actual facts. But it should at least be called propaganda if not fake news.
    - Razengan 10y ago
      Anything with a prominent opinion present throughout the piece is more an "article" than "news" anyway, but yes, propaganda nonetheless.
- superioritycplx 10y ago
  Basically, "fake news" happen when the messenger adds their color to the content. It's activist journalism. It's "the President issued an executive order" vs "the President, in a Hitler-like move, issued an executive order" Journalism was needed because people wanted to know what happened across the globe. Citizen reporting on twitter, Periscope, and YouTube erased that need. Journalists also didn't help themselves last year by being completely one sided. People noticed that. "Fake news" is the journalism's last attempt to save itself. It's already dead from self inflicted wounds.
- metaphorm 10y ago
  they are both forms of disinformation, and usually organized by interested parties as focused media campaigns, so therefore not just disinformation but outright propaganda. fake news is a subset of disinformation.

ihsw2 10y ago

Do either of them qualify as fake news? How do we combat fake news if nobody knows what it is, and how do we prevent collateral damage/unintended consequences?

Razengan 10y ago
Fake == not real. Fake news == reporting stuff that did not happen, isn't true.
- BearGoesChirp 10y ago
  What about reporting on real facts in a way that leads one to draw a false conclusion? Imagine if Fox News ran a story on race and crime and used lots of FBI facts, never drawing any actual conclusion, but pointing out how crimes break down racially while never mentioning the possibility that profiling or the interactions between race and poverty or poverty and crime? All the reporting would be on actual facts. But it should at least be called propaganda if not fake news.
  - Razengan 10y ago
    Anything with a prominent opinion present throughout the piece is more an "article" than "news" anyway, but yes, propaganda nonetheless.
superioritycplx 10y ago
Basically, "fake news" happen when the messenger adds their color to the content. It's activist journalism. It's "the President issued an executive order" vs "the President, in a Hitler-like move, issued an executive order" Journalism was needed because people wanted to know what happened across the globe. Citizen reporting on twitter, Periscope, and YouTube erased that need. Journalists also didn't help themselves last year by being completely one sided. People noticed that. "Fake news" is the journalism's last attempt to save itself. It's already dead from self inflicted wounds.
metaphorm 10y ago
they are both forms of disinformation, and usually organized by interested parties as focused media campaigns, so therefore not just disinformation but outright propaganda. fake news is a subset of disinformation.