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5 people were granted immunity in Hillary Clinton's email scandal and nothing came of it.

CalChris 10y ago
True and similarly despite the Senate Finance Committee having requesting exactly what the IRS did, target, Issa never offered Republican appointed Lois Lerner immunity. Republicans never charged her with anything but passed a contempt citation to cover their asses.
- jerf 10y ago
  I have to admit that at this point, I'd just like to see somebody, somewhere, convicted of something, in a way that carries some sort of real consequences (i.e., no "yep, they're guilty, and the penalty is to retire from the public eye with all their ill-gotten gains and enjoying them until the day they die, except maybe if they take a break to write a book about their experiences for a couple million dollars" crap). Think about it. When's the last time that happened at this level? Why should anyone at that level be concerned about a FBI investigation, or a Congressional probe, or anything else? When's the last time that amounted to anything at all? I honestly don't hardly care who or which side of what aisle they are on. I do very much care that it be an accurate conviction, but that seems to be a target-rich environment right now.
  - CalChris 10y ago
    In the case of the IRS Targeting scandals, ATF or Benghazi or any of the other fake scandals, no one was ever charged with anything. All of investigations were just political witch hunts for campaign purposes.
  - Touche 10y ago
    Same deal as white collared crime, the criminals don't pay in any serious way.
    - jmaygarden 10y ago
      What do you mean? I personally know people that received sentences comparable to a rape conviction for white collar crimes.
cperciva 10y ago
Did they ask for immunity, or were they offered it? Anyone who is offered immunity will take it -- there's no reason not to -- but that doesn't mean they needed it or knew anything worth testifying to. But when you hear "please, someone -- anyone -- give me immunity!" from a suspect, it rather increases the odds that they have a strong reason for wanting immunity.
- Touche 10y ago
  Sure, and that reason might not be that they are guilty. It could be that they feel they are possibly being treated as a scape goat.
- rayiner 10y ago
  The government doesn't go around pro-actively offering immunity to people. It's a chip they'll cash if they need to.

True and similarly despite the Senate Finance Committee having requesting exactly what the IRS did, target, Issa never offered Republican appointed Lois Lerner immunity. Republicans never charged her with anything but passed a contempt citation to cover their asses.

jerf 10y ago
I have to admit that at this point, I'd just like to see somebody, somewhere, convicted of something, in a way that carries some sort of real consequences (i.e., no "yep, they're guilty, and the penalty is to retire from the public eye with all their ill-gotten gains and enjoying them until the day they die, except maybe if they take a break to write a book about their experiences for a couple million dollars" crap). Think about it. When's the last time that happened at this level? Why should anyone at that level be concerned about a FBI investigation, or a Congressional probe, or anything else? When's the last time that amounted to anything at all? I honestly don't hardly care who or which side of what aisle they are on. I do very much care that it be an accurate conviction, but that seems to be a target-rich environment right now.
- CalChris 10y ago
  In the case of the IRS Targeting scandals, ATF or Benghazi or any of the other fake scandals, no one was ever charged with anything. All of investigations were just political witch hunts for campaign purposes.
- Touche 10y ago
  Same deal as white collared crime, the criminals don't pay in any serious way.
  - jmaygarden 10y ago
    What do you mean? I personally know people that received sentences comparable to a rape conviction for white collar crimes.

cperciva 10y ago

Did they ask for immunity, or were they offered it? Anyone who is offered immunity will take it -- there's no reason not to -- but that doesn't mean they needed it or knew anything worth testifying to. But when you hear "please, someone -- anyone -- give me immunity!" from a suspect, it rather increases the odds that they have a strong reason for wanting immunity.

Touche 10y ago
Sure, and that reason might not be that they are guilty. It could be that they feel they are possibly being treated as a scape goat.
rayiner 10y ago
The government doesn't go around pro-actively offering immunity to people. It's a chip they'll cash if they need to.