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>The divide over immigration isn't over immigrants -- but illegal immigrants. Huge difference. The "anti-immigrant" meme is inaccurate. It's "anti-illegal immig

>The divide over immigration isn't over immigrants -- but illegal immigrants. Huge difference. The "anti-immigrant" meme is inaccurate. It's "anti-illegal immigrant." And yet this pic is at the top of the /r/The_Donald right now. Trump voters are afraid that America will become Mexico. But they're also afraid that America will become Syria or Afghanistan or Sweden or Germany. https://i.redd.it/m9nbyi856moy.jpg https://i.redd.it/m9nbyi856moy.jpg

insickness 10y ago
If you don't see the problems that Islamic fundamentalism is causing in Sweden and Germany, you are willfully ignorant. The way Islam is practiced in most of the world is incompatible with western democracy. It's anti-woman, anti-gay, and anti-human rights in general. And each successive generation tends to assimilate LESS rather than more. Yet the left and so-called feminists celebrate this fundamentalist religion for political expediency.
- frgtpsswrdlame 10y ago
  I actually didn't even voice my opinion on Islamic fundamentalism. Just refuting that this is only about illegal immigrants, it's not. Your comment is just further proof of that.
- yorwba 10y ago
  > If you don't see the problems that Islamic fundamentalism is causing in Sweden and Germany, you are willfully ignorant. The way Islam is practiced in most of the world is incompatible with western democracy. It's anti-woman, anti-gay, and anti-human rights in general. There are a few thousand Islamic fundamentalists in all of Germany and the problems they cause are pretty small-scale. The way most Muslims practice their faith here is rather not-in-your-face. E.g. I recently asked a friend of mine whether he wanted to get a hot dog, when he told me he doesn't eat pork. I had no idea. So then we got falafel instead.
  - patrickg_zill 10y ago
    A few thousand in all of Germany? Do you mean to say that 33% of them gathered in Cologne over New Year's?
    - yorwba 10y ago
      Why do you assume that those were fundamentalists as opposed to simple criminals?
self-diversity 10y ago
I don't sense fear from that cartoon - it seems to me a humorously effective lampoon of the wide-left stances of infantilizing so-called marginalized people, and the strange denial of the fact that some adherents to Islam have openly called for the death of the West while attacking it. I know that the politically correct thing to do is dismiss any such lampooning as a phobia, but that can't be strictly correct even from a PC POV since ideologies don't get privileged treatment that I know of.

insickness 10y ago

If you don't see the problems that Islamic fundamentalism is causing in Sweden and Germany, you are willfully ignorant. The way Islam is practiced in most of the world is incompatible with western democracy. It's anti-woman, anti-gay, and anti-human rights in general. And each successive generation tends to assimilate LESS rather than more. Yet the left and so-called feminists celebrate this fundamentalist religion for political expediency.

frgtpsswrdlame 10y ago
I actually didn't even voice my opinion on Islamic fundamentalism. Just refuting that this is only about illegal immigrants, it's not. Your comment is just further proof of that.
yorwba 10y ago
> If you don't see the problems that Islamic fundamentalism is causing in Sweden and Germany, you are willfully ignorant. The way Islam is practiced in most of the world is incompatible with western democracy. It's anti-woman, anti-gay, and anti-human rights in general. There are a few thousand Islamic fundamentalists in all of Germany and the problems they cause are pretty small-scale. The way most Muslims practice their faith here is rather not-in-your-face. E.g. I recently asked a friend of mine whether he wanted to get a hot dog, when he told me he doesn't eat pork. I had no idea. So then we got falafel instead.
- patrickg_zill 10y ago
  A few thousand in all of Germany? Do you mean to say that 33% of them gathered in Cologne over New Year's?
  - yorwba 10y ago
    Why do you assume that those were fundamentalists as opposed to simple criminals?

self-diversity 10y ago

I don't sense fear from that cartoon - it seems to me a humorously effective lampoon of the wide-left stances of infantilizing so-called marginalized people, and the strange denial of the fact that some adherents to Islam have openly called for the death of the West while attacking it. I know that the politically correct thing to do is dismiss any such lampooning as a phobia, but that can't be strictly correct even from a PC POV since ideologies don't get privileged treatment that I know of.