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I don't think a rich 24 year old kid, doing something that was widely considered an attack against the Establishment, is something that is highly unusual or bad
by engx 10y ago
I don't think a rich 24 year old kid, doing something that was widely considered an attack against the Establishment, is something that is highly unusual or bad.
It doesn't seem fair to forever conflate Palmer with Trump or assume that he completely agrees with him.
Maybe his tactics and philosophy are flawed, but I don't think his intentions are. Everyone's so quick to judge, demonize and forever cast people as bad.
He admitted to funding trolling memes to support the current President of the United States? He has to go away forever now, and we all have to pretend not to like him?
- nxc18 10y agoI definitely agree people deserve second chances and make mistakes. Especially people who are young and have more money than they are accustomed to having. At the same time, it is really, really hard to look upon this charitably when he was screwing with something with such high stakes. I get that 24-year-old kids don't take much seriously, but for goodness sake don't use your money for political purposes without thinking it through. Heck, having millions of dollars makes me dislike him kind of like how people don't like Hillary for being successful and having millions. At least Hillary took her position seriously and attempted to look like she was trying to do the right thing, vs Palmer's 'shitpost 4 days, memes r life' bullshit.
- brandonmenc 10y ago> it is really, really hard to look upon this charitably when he was screwing with something with such high stakes Putting up a childish billboard of questionable strategic value promoting a candidate for president is "screwing with something with such high stakes?" Hyperbole?
- michaelbuddy 10y ago2016 revealed just how thin skinned, conspiratorial and fatalistic the tech community is. Hence the drop in participation around here.
- pnathan 10y ago> I get that 24-year-old kids don't take much seriously, but for goodness sake don't use your money for political purposes without thinking it through. Hmmm. Let's look at a slightly different statistic: > In the U.S. army, something like 75%-80% of newly-commissioned Second Lieutenants are promoted to First Lieutenant (around age 25) -- http://history.stackexchange.com/questions/7812/why-have-officers-in-the-u-s-army-tended-to-top-out-at-the-level-of-major http://history.stackexchange.com/questions/7812/why-have-off... What does a 2nd Lt do? > Typically the entry-level rank for most Commissioned Officers. Leads platoon-size elements consisting of the platoon SGT and two or more squads (16 to 44 Soldiers). And shortly will be promoted to 1st Lt... > A seasoned lieutenant with 18 to 24 months service. Leads more specialized weapons platoons and indirect fire computation centers. As a senior Lieutenant, they are often selected to be the Executive Officer of a company-sized unit (110 to 140 personnel). Oh. Leads 16-44 soldiers into combat, and shortly will be commanding 110-140 soldiers... I would like to submit that letting a 24-year old off on account of immaturity is wrong and ignores their clear agency and capability.
- T-A 10y agoI believe becoming a commissioned US Army officer involves passing a selection process.
- smacktoward 10y agoYou would think having $2 billion dropped on one's head by Facebook would too.
- srtjstjsj 10y agoIt's a selection process for technology, patents, and marketing, not for the person.
- peteretep 10y agoThe choices a 2LT needs to make -- while having life and death consequences -- are also pretty limited and they've generally spent 3 years at West Point (or 1 year at Sandhurst, etc) being extensively taught how to make those decisions.
- johansch 10y ago> It doesn't seem fair to forever conflate Palmer with Trump It happened about six months ago. That's a lot shorter than "forever". Even in Silicon Valley time...
- marricks 10y agoI find the implied "boys will be boys" and "people make mistakes" quite unsavory. Should he be cast out form society? No, but I sure won't support him until I see evidence he disagrees with the most disturbing things associated with Trump: sexism, racism, etc. We need to hold people accountable instead of making execuses for them.
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- mst 10y agoDo you also believe anybody who was in favour of the Clinton campaign needs to provide evidence they disagree with silencing sexual assault victims? Because that's definitely a disturbing thing "associated" with her. Otherwise I feel like you're more interested in partisan political posturing than actually holding people accountable. (for the record, I despise both Clinton and Trump, but had I been a US voter rather than a UK bystander, I'd've held my nose and voted Clinton on the expectation of that being the lesser of the available evils)
- marricks 10y agoI think directly speaking about sexual assault coupled with many accusations is more damning, and supporters just not caring. Same with racism against people form Mexico / middle east. Sadly comes down to a matter of scale, at least for me. This sort of stuff should ruin someone running for president, somehow it didn't matter here.
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- peteretep 10y agoHillary wasn't campaigning on a platform of silencing sexual assault victims, but Trump was campaigning on a platform of xenophobia and dog whistles.
- akhilcacharya 10y agoI don't care if Larry Ellison donates to Trump. I care if he solicits money from a group of virulent internet racists though.
- srtjstjsj 10y agoWhy? Wouldn't you rather Ellison spend virulent internet racists' money, then spend Java licensee's money?
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