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Chronic fatigue doesn't give you Hashimoto, and it doesn't give you a gammopathy. My point is simply that if there is a unifying diagnosis to be had, CFS is not

Chronic fatigue doesn't give you Hashimoto, and it doesn't give you a gammopathy. My point is simply that if there is a unifying diagnosis to be had, CFS is not it. (Though I am absolutely aware of Saint's Triad, so if that's what you're going for, I understand.) If you really suspect chronic fatigue, consider talking to someone at the Whittemore Peterson Institute in Reno, NV. (Disclosure: Am friends with one of the authors on their paper that identified that a high proportion of those with CFS harbor a novel virus. This research is not in my field.) NYT write-up: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/09/health/research/09virus.html?_r=1&hpw http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/09/health/research/09virus.ht... But truly, I am discussing this because I find it interesting per se, though I feel it is a bit of a side track.

Ixiaus 16y ago
Good reply, I don't know too much about the ins and outs; just layman reading and anecdotal experience. I remember being chronically fatigued (though it was not Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) for quite some time; what did the trick for me was simple: less carbohydrates (less calories, to be specific), more vegetables, and more animal protein (the Paleo Diet mixed with the Longevity Diet). I also think people underestimate the body's ability to repair itself given the opportunity. I think fixing the diet and exercising would be worth while avenues of giving the body the break it needs. I've also been a big believer in fasting and/or juicing for a few days when I get sick, it seems to get wiped out much faster when I do that. I notice, when I eat grain heavy foods (rice, and particularly wheat based foods) my allergies get worse and I feel "ickier". This correlates well with the description of Candida Albicans and the invasive behaviors the organism take on it, apparently, even makes you want to eat more bread (this is, unscientific, but it seems logical and has served me well thus far). Something else I noticed as well: fatigue was often fixed/alleviated by consuming adrenal supplements...
jwhite 16y ago
There might not be a causal link between the Hashimoto and the CFS. All the symptoms described sound like CFS to me (my sister has had it for 15 years).

Ixiaus 16y ago

Good reply, I don't know too much about the ins and outs; just layman reading and anecdotal experience. I remember being chronically fatigued (though it was not Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) for quite some time; what did the trick for me was simple: less carbohydrates (less calories, to be specific), more vegetables, and more animal protein (the Paleo Diet mixed with the Longevity Diet). I also think people underestimate the body's ability to repair itself given the opportunity. I think fixing the diet and exercising would be worth while avenues of giving the body the break it needs. I've also been a big believer in fasting and/or juicing for a few days when I get sick, it seems to get wiped out much faster when I do that. I notice, when I eat grain heavy foods (rice, and particularly wheat based foods) my allergies get worse and I feel "ickier". This correlates well with the description of Candida Albicans and the invasive behaviors the organism take on it, apparently, even makes you want to eat more bread (this is, unscientific, but it seems logical and has served me well thus far). Something else I noticed as well: fatigue was often fixed/alleviated by consuming adrenal supplements...

jwhite 16y ago

There might not be a causal link between the Hashimoto and the CFS. All the symptoms described sound like CFS to me (my sister has had it for 15 years).