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You mean people will get the opportunity to pay their ISP not to sell them out? Sounds pretty consumer friendly to me.

by kirrent 10y ago

iamjeff 10y ago
Any way we see this new development, this weakening of privacy is a big win for telecoms and its sustained and vast efforts at lobbying Congress. Bluntly, Congress sold out the American people...anywhere else (I believe) and the ability for entire industries to buy votes would be called corruption, especially when elected representatives remove consumer protections (whoever gave them that mandate?!) in favour of (a paying) industry. [0]- The 265 members of Congress who sold you out to ISPs, and how much it cost to buy them (http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-web-browsing-privacy-fire-sale http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-...)
- narrowrail 10y ago
  You know, it is possible that these members didn't vote because of some quid pro quo relationship but because of ideological beliefs that aligned with voting this way. Maximizing liberty and 'leveling the playing field' (WRT FANG) seem like beliefs one could reasonably hold. The end doesn't justify the means to all people, and reaching decisions one doesn't like is sometimes the outcome of remaining true to one's principles.
rtx 10y ago
No ISPs will get opportunity to differentiate themselves.
- pivo 10y ago
  I don't know where you live, but where I live there is no choice for which ISP you use. This is true for many, if not the majority of people in the US. I am unable to use the ISP I want to use because it is blocked in my building by a building-exclusive contract with Comcast. So no ISPs have any chance for an opportunity.
  - narrowrail 10y ago
    Can you lobby your building administration with the help of your fellow residents? I would get a hold of the exclusivity agreement it and comb over it to look for loopholes, and also determine when it expires.
    - pivo 10y ago
      I've tried. They just stonewall me by claiming that the building is only wired for Comcast and refuse to communicate with me further on the subject. edit: It's an apartment building not a condo. In my previous condo building it would have been easier to discuss this issue.

You mean people will get the opportunity to pay their ISP not to sell them out? Sounds pretty consumer friendly to me.

by kirrent 10y ago

You mean people will get the opportunity to pay their ISP not to sell them out? Sounds pretty consumer friendly to me.

Any way we see this new development, this weakening of privacy is a big win for telecoms and its sustained and vast efforts at lobbying Congress. Bluntly, Congress sold out the American people...anywhere else (I believe) and the ability for entire industries to buy votes would be called corruption, especially when elected representatives remove consumer protections (whoever gave them that mandate?!) in favour of (a paying) industry. [0]- The 265 members of Congress who sold you out to ISPs, and how much it cost to buy them (http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-web-browsing-privacy-fire-sale http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-...)

narrowrail 10y ago
You know, it is possible that these members didn't vote because of some quid pro quo relationship but because of ideological beliefs that aligned with voting this way. Maximizing liberty and 'leveling the playing field' (WRT FANG) seem like beliefs one could reasonably hold. The end doesn't justify the means to all people, and reaching decisions one doesn't like is sometimes the outcome of remaining true to one's principles.

rtx 10y ago

No ISPs will get opportunity to differentiate themselves.

pivo 10y ago
I don't know where you live, but where I live there is no choice for which ISP you use. This is true for many, if not the majority of people in the US. I am unable to use the ISP I want to use because it is blocked in my building by a building-exclusive contract with Comcast. So no ISPs have any chance for an opportunity.
- narrowrail 10y ago
  Can you lobby your building administration with the help of your fellow residents? I would get a hold of the exclusivity agreement it and comb over it to look for loopholes, and also determine when it expires.
  - pivo 10y ago
    I've tried. They just stonewall me by claiming that the building is only wired for Comcast and refuse to communicate with me further on the subject. edit: It's an apartment building not a condo. In my previous condo building it would have been easier to discuss this issue.