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The engines have minor differences, namely that the space shuttle used fully closed cycle engines while the falcon 9 does not. All this means though is that th
by pdelbarba 10y ago
The engines have minor differences, namely that the space shuttle used fully closed cycle engines while the falcon 9 does not. All this means though is that the efficiency is slightly lower because some of the propellant is burned and the combustion product dumped overboard to power the turbo pumps that push the rest of the propellant into the main combustion chamber. While this reduces efficiency, this makes the engine somewhat easier to design and I believe the next gen spacex engines will have this feature.
The vertical landing design is actually really smart because it allows a relatively un-aerodynamic object to get back to the ground without adding heavy wings and fairings. Rockets don't actually like having fins when they go up since the dynamic pressures get to be extremely high. Rather, they opt for gimbaled engines to steer (this also helps when there's no atmosphere to steer with). The only downside to this approach is that some of the fuel has to be retained for the return trip, though this is a relatively small fraction. The other huge issue you have to deal with when gliding back is having some sort of landing gear in addition to the control surfaces. You can put wheels on it but that's a lot of weight and if you land it horizontally, without the pressure of the propellant keeping the body rigid, it will most likely crumple.
- greglindahl 10y agoF9 FT can launch ~ 5.3 metric tons to GTO with landing, or ~ 8 metric tons without. I'm not sure if I'd call that a relatively small penalty. It does allow SpaceX to launch most GTO satellites. I expect Block 5 will do a bit better.
- itp 10y agoI think both views are essentially correct. It is a relatively small fraction of the fuel load, but thanks to the impact of the rocket equation, that relatively small fraction translates (as you are pointing out) to a sizable difference in payload to a given orbit.
- WalterBright 10y agoThe landing gear would also need to be retractable, a big increase in weight and complexity. The complexity will add a lot of failure-critical reliability problems.
- nickik 10y agoThe SSME was a staged combustion but not full-staged combustion as the next SpaceX motor will be (Raptor). The SSME are special and specially efficent because they burn fuel-rich and have multible pre-burners. They were very highly optimized but that made them complex. Full-staged combustion has a better max performance for a given fuel and promises to be simpler in design.